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From: "Theresa Entin" <>
Subject: [AZORES-L] Velho Family
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:10:10 -0400


Dear Fellow list members,

RE: Iolanda/ Solanda

Does anyone know how Maria Esteves, the daughter of Afonso Velho connects
back to the family of the Velhos. Do they connect to Goncalo Velho Cabral's
family? Eloise, I will be disappointed if you don't know this. I'm
counting on you! Theresa
-----Original Message-----
From: Theresa Entin <>
To: <>
Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [PORTUGAL-L] Cogumbreiro + Lopes


>Hi, Yes, I am sure it was Iolanda. It was written on a large 2X3 foot tile
>in the chapel itself. It was definately an "I" not an "S". I have photos
>of the 2 tiles that were in the chapel. Theresa
>-----Original Message-----
>From: João Amaral Frazão <>
>To: <>
>Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [PORTUGAL-L] Cogumbreiro + Lopes
>
>
>>Theresa and Eloise and Beth and all
>>
>>Are you sure, Theresa, about the name (Iolanda and not Solanda)? Did you
>see
>>it written that way in the chapel?
>>
>>About Vasconcelos (resposting):
>>
>>Diogo deVasconcelos (or de Oliveira Vasconcelos): son of Martim de
>Oliveira
>>and Catarina Afonso; legitimated
>>by king D.Manuel (3.7.1504 - see: Chancelaria de D.Manuel, livro 22, f.
>49;
>>Arquivo dos Acores, vol. 5, p. 105)
>>
>>Martim de Oliveira, captain of Arzila where he was made knight
(Chancelaria
>de
>>D.Manuel, livro 9, f. 50 v.) was son of Rui de Oliveira (from the house of
>>infante D.Fernando, duque de Viseu, the father of king Manuel);
>>
>>About Cogombreiros:
>>
>>I've found two Cogombreiros in the year of 1495, in Funchal (José Pereira
>da
>>Costa, Vereações da Camara Municipal do Funchal, sec. XV, Centro de
Estudos
>de
>>História do Atlântico, 1995):
>>
>>1) Afonso Eanes Cogombreiro - "o donatario (Joao Gz da Camara) nomeou tres
>>homens para alcaides pequenos" (one of those 3 men was Afonso Eanes
>>Cogombreiro)
>>
>>2) Joao Eanes Cogombreiro is elected "alcaide pequeno" of Ribeira Brava
>>
>>thank you all for the news,
>>
>>jaf
>>
>>
>>Theresa Entin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi fellow list members,
>>>
>>> While I was in S. Miguel, I went to the Chapel of S. Lazarus in
>>> Mosteiros. It was built by/for the children of Afonso Oliveira and
>Iolanda
>>> Lopes who made a will in May 7, 1586.
>>> Afonso Oliveira was the brother of Ines Oliveira Vasconcelos, who
>were
>>> the children of Diogo Oliveira Vasconcelos, native of Beja, who married
>>> MariaEsteves, the daughter of Afonso Velho of the Family of the Velhos.
>>>
>>> All the above information is written in the chapel itself. Note that
her
>>> name is "Iolanda". Also I have her as the child of Cogumbreiro as you
>do.
>>>
>>> I don't have the info on Madeira. I do have Iolanda dying in S. Miguel.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps, Theresa
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Miguel Labrego <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 1:43 AM
>>> Subject: [PORTUGAL-L] Cogumbreiro + Lopes
>>>
>>> >Dear fellow list members (especially Doug and Joao A.F.),
>>> > This is the second post I received from my friend Beth on the
>>> >Cogumbrerio name. Hopefully, this post has more info. than the previous
>>> >one. I know back in June Joao and Dog were talking abouot this "Afonso
>>> >Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro". Hopefully someone can help her with her
>>> >questions. Any info. could be sent through me via this list or directly
>>> >to her at her address:
>>> >Please see message below:
>>> >Thanks once again to all who can help!
>>> >I'm sure within time we will find we are all related!
>>> >Adeus primos,
>>> >Miguel
>>> >http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~mrl
>>> >____________________________________________
>>> >Miguel,
>>> >...The information you forwarded to me must be some connection to
>>> >my people. I have an Afonsoanes Costa, known as O Mouro Velho who
>married
>>> >Fua Carneira (born in Porto, PT). They lived in Ponta Garca, Sao
>Miguel.
>>> >Their son, Afonsoanes Cogombreiro, was born in Ponta Garca. He was
>>> >married to Ines Martins, by whom he had Solanda Lopes, S.D.T., and
Padre
>>> >Joao Sousa Costa. His second wife was Beatriz Velha. I also have a
>>> >Rodrigo Annes S.D.T. Do you know what S.D.T. stands for??
>>> >
>>> >At any rate, I'm sure my lines are connected somehow to the people who
>>> >were discussed in that email back in June. My concern is to know more
>>> >about these ancestors, including the Lopes family, who were before
them
>>> >who emmigrated from Portugal to Madeira-----where in Portugal did they
>>> >emmigrate from and why?? Conversos maybe?? :-)
>>> >
>>> >Thanks again, Miguel.
>>> >
>>> >Kind regards,
>>> >Beth
>>> >_______________________________________________
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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