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From: Rosie Bevan <>
Subject: Re: CP Addition: Richard Pole's 1st marriage to Alice Stradling
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:43:33 +1200
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Dear Tim

Geoffrey Pole was referred to as an armiger at his inquisition in 19 Edw IV
[Calendarium Inquisitionum Post Mortem v. 4. p.392].

Cheers

Rosie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Powys-Lybbe" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: CP Addition: Richard Pole's 1st marriage to Alice Stradling


> In message of 7 Apr, (Douglas Richardson) wrote:
>
> > Dear Tim ~
> >
> > Today I reviewed a variety of records pertaining to the family of
> > Geoffrey Pole (or Poole) (died 1479), of Medmenham, Buckinghamshire
> > found on the online PROCAT catalog (http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk).
> > I found five records pertaining to Geoffrey Pole himself, five records
> > pertaining to his son, Sir Richard Pole (died 1504), and three records
> > pertaining to Sir Richard's widow, Margaret Plantagenet, Countess of
> > Salisbury. The records (which I have posted below) range in date from
> > the 1430's to the 1530's. All thirteen records spell the family
> > surname Pole. I found no instances of any of these people as Poole.
> > I trust this answers your question as to when the family began using
> > the spelling Pole for their surname.
>
> I wish it did. (Thanks, by the way, for going to the trouble to look
> up this catalogue.)
>
> The problem, as you are well aware, is what you see on the site is the
> cataloguer's abstract of the deeds. They may very well have used modern
> spelling.
>
> We will only find out when someone gets hold of the originals. And I
> suspect then it will be ambiguous as multiple spellings will be found,
> as was the custom of those times.
>
> Meantime, we can be reasonably certain that the various editors of the
> Visitation series determined to copy the verbal content and spelling on
> the surviving documents and curiously these all use, universally, the
> spelling of "Poole". Why did the originals (or even the copies of those
> originals) have this if that spelling had died out at least sixty years
> previously?
>
>
> Has anyone got any suggestions of how to establish what Geoff Poole's
> style was at the time of his death? Had he been knighted within the
> six months between writing his will, when he was an esquire, and probate
> being given? Was there an IPM?
>
> --
> Tim Powys-Lybbe
> For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org
>
>

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