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From: Tim Powys-Lybbe <>
Subject: Re: CP Addition: Richard Pole's 1st marriage to Alice Stradling
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:13:06 +0100
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In message of 10 Apr, (Douglas Richardson) wrote:

> (Douglas Richardson) wrote in message news:<>...
> > Dear Tim ~
> >
> > You can find a pedigree of the ancestry of Geoffrey Pole, of
> > Medmenham, Buckinghamshire, in the following source:
> >
> > P.C. Bartrum, Welsh Genealogies 1400?1500, 6 (1983): 898 [Gwenwys 2
> > (A, B): "Jeffrey Pole, d. 1479 = Edith d. Oliver St. John"].
> >
> > Mr. Bartrum identifies Geoffrey Pole as the son of a David Fawr, and
> > gives the Pole ancestry back several generations to a Gilbert "Pool."
>
> > Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
> >
> > E-mail:
>
> Correction: Bartrum identifies Geoffrey Pole as the son of Dafydd Fawr.

Thanks for this information.

In all the postings about Bartrum's collections, I have noted that the
prevailing view is that he was not a genealogist but a collector, and a
highly scholarly one at that. He put down whatever was in various
manuscripts and I gather that he did not check on the authenticity of
their content; but providing the raw manuscripts is enormously valuable,
of course.

It was for the same reason that I did not incorporate Arthur Plaisted's
account in my genealogy, only including it as a note, as there were no
sources to back it up.

So I wonder if you can let us know your view of Bartrum's work - to
which I do not have access here.

Have you seen, by the way, Constance Poole's will of 1570? It is on the
Documents on Line site of the PRO. Not very legible but she seems to
have used the spelling of the visitations of much the same time.

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org

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