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From: "Annie, The WritingTeacher" <>
Subject: [DNA] answer to question about Celts in Turkey
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:42:22 -0800

There were no "Turks" in Turkey, only groups of Indo-European speaking
peoples, descenadants of mtDNA Ursula and Helena that is U5 and H and others
before the Central Asians entered. If you go back 30,000 years you have the
Ukraine ice age refugium peoples living there. Then the neolithic farmers
from Syria going north. By the bronze age you have Celts moving from Central
Europe to Turkey along with Greeks who have genes that cluster with
Austrians in the West, Hittites in Central, and Armenians in East who
cluster with Atlantic Modal Type in the majority and a minority with Syrians
that have U3 mtDNA and J1a1 Y chromosomes at a high level, among others. It
was only after 800 CE that Turks from the Altai moved to Anatolia, before
that it was a Greek-speaking area made up of the descendants of Trojans,
Hittites, Ururtians, Hurrians, Cimmerians, Lydians, and others. You have
all these tribes, and the Celts were another tribe that settled there....but
there were no Turks speaking Turish, a language originating in the Altai and
related to Mongol dialects. However, this was the bronze age. If you go back
33,000 years, that area of Anatolia/Cappadocia (Turkey) was inhabited by
people who lived in Eastern and North Central Europe as well as Iranic
peoples. The old Ice Age refugium for these people who live there and in the
Balkans was originally the Ukraine, and before the Ukraine, the Caucasus,
before that Central Asia, and before that about 51,000 years ago NW

Anne Hart
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