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From: Shane <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] FTDNA Haplogroup Database
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:39:26 -0600
On 11/17/03 12:23 PM, "David Faux" <> wrote:
> Shane: The main point is to look for matches in Wales, Scotland and Ireland
> in relation to Norway, Denmark, Shetland and Iceland (for example). If lots
> of matches with the former cluster, probably Celtic; if few to none, and
> matches with the latter, and if one's ancestors are from say England, then a
> non - Celtic hypothesis needs to be assessed. Here is where looking at even 3
> mutation "matches" can be somewhat instructive - does Denmark or Norway or
> France predominate. The answer to that will help point an individual in one
> direction or another. Until we have more extensive databases, everything re
> R1b must be tentative - but in my case there is at present no other reasonable
> interpretation - Norman, but from Norway originally - and before that who
> knows. It really boils down to a pattern analysis. I do this so often with
> my Shetland Project that I think that I can spot profiles for certain
> ancestries - or maybe I am just deluding myself (I don't think so, but there !
> is an
> unknown error rate in this approach).
You might be on to something here. When I go back and look at the 2 and 3
step mutations, I get higher numbers for places like Iceland, Ireland,
France, Shetland and Norway. Taken as a whole, they could be indicative of
Norse ancestry. Hmm....