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From: Alan Savin <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Research Inquiry?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:43:46 +0100

Dear Ann and list,

Yes, I am back as previously reported and as usual it takes an equivalent
length of time to catch up all my e-mails compared with the length of time
I have been away. I presume that what I have copied below is the right
paper before I go chasing after the wrong data and that what you require is
a summary of the individual results, for example the frequency of each
haplotype for each location. Don't be surprised or disappointed if only six
loci have been used. My contact is Mark Thomas and remember being Easter
they could well be taking a break along with the students. So if someone
could confirm the above to my private e-mail:


Also I remember that at one time we were discussing the handing over of
information regarding the findings of the BBC 'Blood of the Vikings'
Project. Is
there an update on this process as yet?
All the best.
Grant South

We were waiting on Alan Savin's return from his travels to see about his
taking the lead in making the contact on this. He's back..time to jog his
(which if he's reading the list this should do). At this point even I need to
review the archives to see the earlier discussion and look through my files to
see what I was told.

Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:58:01 EST
Message-ID: <>
Subject: [DNA] Blood of the VIKINGS: Remarkable response fm Univ Coll of
London researcher!!!

"All published in Current Biology, lead author Cristian Capelli, and we can
make primary data available. Best wishes."
1. Anyone have subscription/access/links etc to Current Biology who is
willing to look up & share the articles with the rest of us (post to
webpage, make
copies available by snail mail to requestees, or whatever seems to work best
for you)
2. NOW! The question is in what format they can make the primary data
available, to whom they will make it available, and under what terms and
conditions. My guess (and yes I am mailing to ask all of this) is that it
will need to
be to an academic or research institution.
I am sure someone among us MUST have the appropriate connections to serve as
our "receiver of gift horse." Any volunteers?

A Y Chromosome Census of the British Isles

Cristian Capelli 1,8, Nicola Redhead 1, Julia K. Abernethy 1, Fiona
Gratrix 1, James F.
Wilson 1, Torolf Moen 3, Tor Hervig 4, Martin Richards 5, Michael P.H.
Stumpf 1,9,
Peter A. Underhill 6, Paul Bradshaw 7, Alom Shaha 7, Mark G. Thomas
1,2, Neal
Bradman 1,2, and David B. Goldstein *1

1Department of Biology, Gower Street, London WC1E 6BT, United Kingdom
2The Centre for Genetic Anthropology, University College London, UK,
Gower Street, London WC1E 6BT, United Kingdom
3Trondheim University Hospital, N-7006 Trondheim, Norway
4Haukeland University Hospital Blood Bank, N-5021 Haukeland, Denmark
5Department of Chemical and Biological Sciences, University of
Huddersfield, Huddersfield HD1 3DH, United Kingdom
6Department of Genetics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305-5120 USA
7BBC Archaeology, London, United Kingdom
8Istituto di Medicina Legale, Università Cattolica di Roma, Roma
I-00168, Italy
9Department of Zoology, Oxford University, Oxford OX1 3PS, United Kingdom

David B. Goldstein

The degree of population replacement in the British Isles associated
with cultural changes has been extensively
debated [1–3]. Recent work has demonstrated that comparisons of
genetic variation in the British Isles and on
the European Continent can illuminate specific demographic processes
in the history of the British Isles. For
example, Wilson et al. [4] used the similarity of Basque and Celtic Y
chromosomes to argue for genetic
continuity from the Upper Palaeolithic to the present in the paternal
history of these populations (see also [5]).
Differences in the Y chromosome composition of these groups also
suggested genetic signatures of Norwegian
influence in the Orkney Islands north of the Scottish mainland, an
important center of Viking activities between
800 and 1300 A.D. [6]. More recently, Weale et al. [7] argued for
substantial Anglo-Saxon male migration into
central England based on the analysis of eight British sample sets
collected on an east-west transect across
England and Wales. To provide a more complete assessment of the
paternal genetic history of the British Isles,
we have compared the Y chromosome composition of multiple
geographically distant British sample sets with
collections from Norway (two sites), Denmark, and Germany and with
collections from central Ireland,
representing, respectively, the putative invading and the indigenous
populations. By analyzing 1772 Y
chromosomes from 25 predominantly small urban locations, we found that
different parts of the British Isles
have sharply different paternal histories; the degree of population
replacement and genetic continuity shows
systematic variation across the sampled areas.

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