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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Viking haplogroup
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:59:10 -0600
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David, For someone who yesterday was (rightly in my opiinion) blasting a
peer reviewed article by "professionals" concerning R1b in Europe, your
appeal to "unassailable" academic authority sounds a bit excessive.

Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. M. Freed" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:56 PM
Subject: [DNA] Viking haplogroup


> David,
> Clarification please: Below you mention that only R1a is "the only
> incontrovertible Viking signature". In an earlier message today, you
> stated, "only haplogroup R1a or Q can prove Viking heritage".
>
> Is there no strong evidence of Q being a Viking signature, or in your
> second statement are you stating that R1a is the exact same as the Q
> haplogroup?
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] The Irish are not celts, say experts (fwd)
>
>
> > Ken:
> >
> > With all due respects you missed the point of my post - to inform
> Mr. Viking that without DNA testing he will be hard pressed to
> convince scientists like myself that his ancestry can be traced as far
> back as 800AD.
> >
> > You are performing pioneering work on haplogroup I1a, but to this
> point the only unassailable work is that published by Jim Wilson (2000
> etc.) indicating that in Britain, the only incontrovertible Viking
> signature is R1a. Your haplotype analysis is a step in the right
> direction, and after peer review and publication your work will
> doubtless add another element to the mix. To repeat, I was speaking
> of what is accepted in the scientific community today as expressed in
> the published literature, trying to make a point, not provide a
> comprehensive overview of the subject.
> >
> > David.
>
>
>
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