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From: David Faux <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Y-hap-R questions
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:08:09 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <00d601c602d3$df676c90$6601a8c0@SILVA>


Actually the motif I noted only applies to R1a, no other haplogroup. R1a and Eb3 or course have independent histories and the YCA result is just happenstance.

David Faux.

grandcross <> wrote:
David:

I have YCAIIa,b = 19,21 and I'm E3b1 with a solid paper trail to 1760 in
Portugal!

daSilva


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Faux"
To:
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Y-hap-R questions


> Don't forget that only 40% of Norwegian R1a have YCAIIa,b = 19,21 - but it
> is found no where else in Europe - it is unknown what the motif is in
> Asia.
>
> David Faux.
>
> wrote:
> Glen
>
> yes, Slavic and Scandinavian R1a appear to be distinct groups but there is
> no SNP to separate them. YCAii is one marker that suggests they have
> different histories (Scandinavian has 19,21. Slavic has 19,23)
>
> R2 is common in India and Pakistan (about 8% on average) but rare in
> Europeans.
> It has a distinctive 10/10/14 pattern at DYS391/2/3.
>
> Gareth
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glen Todd"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:03 PM
> Subject: [DNA] Y-hap-R questions
>
>
>> People;
>>
>> I'm having a decided problem getting a mental handle on R1a. R1b I
> think
>> that I've got figured out, but there seem to be two entirely separate
> groups
>> of R1a; Slavic and Scandinavian. Is this so?
>>
>> Also, I rarely hear about R2 or R* - is Y-hap-R another case like Y-hap-I
>> where one second level group just totally dominates the first level
>> group?
>>
>> Glen
>
>
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