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From: "David Zincavage" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Y-hap-R questions
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:37:56 -0800
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or from the Norman rulers of Sicily in the early middle ages.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Maddi" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Y-hap-R questions


> I'd welcome any ideas about how someone with Sicilian
> recent ancestry would be R1a. In the Sicily Project we
> have one person who has been predicted by FTDNA to be
> R1a (which seems likely from Whit Athey's predictor)
> and another person who is unpredicted by FTDNA, but
> who comes up with R1a for prediction (although weak)
> by Whit's predictor. You can look at their haplotypes
> at the Sicily Project website
> (http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Sicily/). The kit
> numbers are 46354 and 39685.
>
> It's hard to see much genetic input for Sicily from
> the areas mentioned below as reservoirs of R1a yDNA.
> However, there was an interesting posting on Charles
> Kerchner's yahoogroups e-mail list that might throw
> some light on this. The poster reports that her
> husband, of Assyrian descent, is R1a and provides a
> link to an academic article
> (http://www.assyrianfoundation.org/genetics.htm) which
> points out the connection between Assyrians and other
> Middle Eastern people today. I was thinking that that
> may be one explanation for the presence of R1a in
> Sicily, perhaps through Phoenician/Carthaginian
> involvement.
>
> Any ideas about this?
>
> Mike Maddi
>
>
> --- wrote:
>
> >
> > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:52:33 -0000
> > From: <>
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [DNA] Y-hap-R questions
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > yes, Slavic and Scandinavian R1a appear to be
> > distinct groups but there is
> > no SNP to separate them. YCAii is one marker that
> > suggests they have
> > different histories (Scandinavian has 19,21. Slavic
> > has 19,23)
> >
> > R2 is common in India and Pakistan (about 8% on
> > average) but rare in
> > Europeans.
> > It has a distinctive 10/10/14 pattern at DYS391/2/3.
> >
> > Gareth
> >
>
>
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