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From: "Alister John Marsh" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Re: 67 marker results back
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 15:27:38 +1200
In-Reply-To: <005f01c6a2fb$d29f3ce0$6401a8c0@Precision360>


In the R1b project, of over 72 results for the new 30 markers, only 2
exactly match the modal for R1b. That is, more than 97% have mutations in
the 30 new markers, some have 6 or more. This indicates the new markers in
R1b at least are likely to "show something" in more than 97% of cases.


-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Mayka [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [DNA] Re: 67 marker results back

> From: Alister John Marsh [mailto:]
> If you are content with "less
> honest" estimates which may be deceiving you about how close
> the relationship is, then you may be content to base your
> assessments on the fast markers.

You are assuming that the new markers show anything at all. Only one member
of the Polish project, an I1b1-Dinar, has received the 67-marker upgrade he
ordered. All 30 of the extra markers exactly matched Ken's modal. No, that
is not a coincidence! If you know how widely varying I1b1-Dinar is (in the
first 37 markers) across eastern and southern Europe, you will realize that
30 *unvarying* markers are absolutely, totally useless.

It will be interesting to see which haplogroups find any significant use to
the new markers.

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