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From: "Lawrence Mayka" <>
Subject: Re: [GENEALOGY-DNA] [DNA] The Mystery of China's Celtic Mummies
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:07:23 -0500
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> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of
> Katherine Martin
> I see it at the link I sent
> the ref to six feet in the 2nd paragraph and to blue eyes in
> the 6th paragraph.

I see the reference to a woman more than 6 feet tall. There is only a
reference to "probably blue" eyes, which may simply be a meaningless
self-projection by the speaker.

In any case, a description of tall, blue-eyed, blond or red-haired people in
Central Asia brings to mind the Scythians and their city of Gelonus,
recently unearthed by Ukrainian archaeologists:
Scythian Gelonus (modern Bel'sk near Poltava)

Herodotus tells of an enormous city, Gelonus, in the northern part of
Scythia (4.108):

"The Budini are a large and powerful nation: they have all deep blue eyes,
and bright red hair. There is a city in their territory, called Gelonus,
which is surrounded with a lofty wall, thirty furlongs [τριήκοντα σταδίων =
ca. 5,5 km] each way, built entirely of wood. All the houses in the place
and all the temples are of the same material. Here are temples built in
honour of the Grecian gods, and adorned after the Greek fashion with images,
altars, and shrines, all in wood. There is even a festival, held every third
year in honour of Bacchus, at which the natives fall into the Bacchic fury.
For the fact is that the Geloni were anciently Greeks, who, being driven out
of the factories along the coast, fled to the Budini and took up their abode
with them. They still speak a language half Greek, half Scythian." (transl.

Recent digs in Bel'sk 50.02° N 34.38° E near Poltava (Ukraine) have
uncovered a vast city identified by Boris Shramko as Gelonus. The city's
commanding ramparts and vast area of 40 square kilometers exceeded even the
outlandish size reported by Herodotus. Its location at the northern edge of
the Ukrainian steppe would have allowed strategic control of the north-south
trade route. Judging by the finds dated to the 5th and 4th centuries BC,
craft workshops and Greek pottery abounded, as well as slaves perhaps
destined for Greece.

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