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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Celts descended from Spanish fishermen, study finds
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:36:47 -0600
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From: "R. & G. Stevens" <>

> It seems likely to me, and to a growing number of other people, that the
> indigenous natives of Western Europe belonged to y-haplogroups other than
> R1b, whose bearers moved in from the East sometime in the Neolithic Period
> or Bronze Age and largely replaced them.

Those actual indigenous
> y-haplogroups may be largely extinct now in Europe or they may still exist
> as vestigial, minority y-haplogroups.

That seems a rather wild speculation, with understandably no evidence
concerning it. Other than the plausability that the range of N3 in Europe
may have been cut back substantially in recent millenia by expanding R1a,
old I1b, I1a, even R1b, what are candidates for the vestigial, minority ydna
types of Europe which once (paleolithic?)were dominant?


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