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From: "Dora Smith" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Celts descended from Spanish fishermen, study finds
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:58:01 -0500
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Already there.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX

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From: "R. & G. Stevens" <>
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Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Celts descended from Spanish fishermen, study finds


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "M True" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Celts descended from Spanish fishermen, study finds
>
>>
>> But in order for any elite to be an elite you must have a larger number
>> of
>> people in a population who are not the elite. If they are not elite
>> where
>> did they come from?
>>
>> John.
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> Groups that began as "elites" sometimes wound up as the majority of the
> population. There are a number of historical examples, including that of
> the
> United States. When using modern populations to make guesses about the
> past,
> is it wise to view a minority y-haplogroup as a "ruling elite" rather than
> as one that in some measure lost out in the reproductive race?
>
> Besides, the word "elite" is loaded. In prehistoric (before the advent of
> writing) times, populations were small. It would not have been that
> difficult for one group to move in and pretty much eliminate all or most
> of
> its male enemies. Thus the "elite" aspect of what transpired would be
> limited.
>
> What elites imposed Indo-European languages in Western Europe? The amount
> of
> R1a there is relatively small and can be traced to historically documented
> movements that greatly postdate the arrival of Indo-European languages.
>
> Rich
>
>
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