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From: Rebekah <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Ellen's Paper
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:48:25 -0600
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Would running a full sequence on the samples resolve or at least clarify
the problem?


David Faux wrote:
> John has stated in his words precisely what I was trying to articulate.
> I reviewed the Haak paper which Ellen uses as a pillar of her perspective. My assertion in previous posts is that ANY European specimen assigned to a haplogroup when the specimen is determined to contain the 16223 mutation is highly suspicious due to the propensity for a false reading at this spot due to selective post mortem damage. Among the samples in the Haak paper all 6 have the 16223 "mutation". Hence there is no reason to posit a previous occupation by haplogroup N of any stripe, presently seen almost exclusively in Asia, when the most parsimonious interpretation of the weight of data is that many studies have misattributed haplogroup assignments. The reason is that an ancient specimen of H or a V (common today in Basque Country) is likely to "morph" into something else due to 16223 and the others noted in the Thomas paper being likely to glow "as if" they were C, D, L3, or N etc.
> David Faux.

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