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From: "Lawrence Mayka" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] The Basques and Scholarship
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:49:43 -0500
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> [mailto:] On Behalf Of John Chandler
> You're apparently trying to have it both ways. A society
> that is culturally open to male replacement is simply a
> mirror of the male population around it. It does not select
> and *amplify* one component thereof.

That's only if the society remains fully matriarchal down to modern times.
On the other hand, if a formerly matriarchal community accepts traditional
Catholicism--including the key concepts that the father is the head of the
family and that marriage is for life--it may then follow a policy of
endogamy after that point, and hence then be subject to the usual genetic
drift of small endogamous populations.

> Sorry, but it just doesn't fly. Genetic input from the
> outside always and without fail increases the genetic
> diversity. You have to assume there is *no* input from the
> outside, as well as patriarchal power, if you want to invoke
> a self-perpetuating saturated male population.

Absolutely false. An almost total male replacement, as a matriarchy could
easily accomplish, would _replace_ the community's former yDNA diversity
with the (small) diversity of the few adopted studs (e.g., soldiers).
Subsequent adoption of traditional Catholicism, with its paternal family
headship and marital indissolubility, combined with a distinctive language,
might then result in a small, endogamous community subject to the further
loss of diversity through genetic drift.

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