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From: "Tom Gull" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] R-U152 and R-L21 on the European Continent
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:48:25 -0500
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For the record, I think the overall similarity is also apparent when
compared against U106 distributions in the FTDNA project maps.

This doesn't mean I think all these maps line up perfectly in every 50 mile
square. But it does mean I think they have far more in common geographically
than their differences. This may suggest either a common origin or a common
growth phase followed by branches headed different directions.

Or it may be that the modern distributions seem similar because they are,
but they didn't start out that way. We don't have enough info to make that
call today, in my opinion.

From: "Michael Walsh" <>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 5:10 PM
To: <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] R-U152 and R-L21 on the European Continent

> ----> David Faux <> wrote:
> ... I look at my google map of the distribution of U152 and Rich's
> google map of the distribution of L21 and I see jaw dropping
> differences...
> -----> My Response:
> David,
> I must not have been clear. I never intended to say L21 and U152 are
> 'identical' in geographic distribution. I am saying I agree with what
> Alan R wrote. Specifically the quote following below. Regardless of
> geographies, L21 and U152 descend from P312 and the MRCA's for L21,
> U152 and P312* are very close.
> ----> Alan R <> wrote:
> ...continental L21 and U152 are increasingly looking SIMILAR in a
> large overlapping central area. I think this similarily is growing
> month by month. The
> differences between them seems to lie more at the extremities.
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