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From: David Faux <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] R-U152 and R-L21 on the European Continent
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:37:20 -0800
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If someone wishes to send me a "package" of materials pertaining to the
matter, I would be happy to see that they are placed in the right hands.

BTW, I would never recommend, personally, to any of these geneicists to
"come to the List for some frank discussion". Older members will recall the
grilling received by Dr. Frudakis of DNAPrint Genomics. I plead guilty to
being the one who appears to have frustrated him the most - it brought out
the "Tiger in me" (woops, that has a different connotation these days).
Things degenerated into a kind of shouting match and in the end nothing
productive came of the exercise.

David K. Faux.

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Lawrence Mayka <> wrote:

> Since it is unlikely that any of the "heavyweights" will read this mailing
> list, it would be very useful for someone (who claims to have contacts
> among
> them!) to present them with Nordtvedt's interclade method of age
> calculation, which eliminates any possible justification for fudge factors
> ("effective" mutation rates).
> > From: [mailto:genealogy-dna-
> > ] On Behalf Of Vincent Vizachero
> > I agree it is too bad that Zhivotovsky et al. don't visit
> > this list: they'd surely learn something.

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