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From: "Irish III DNA" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] New web YPredictor!
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:38:24 +1100
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I appreciate your efforts, but the predictions do not go very deep, (and are sometimes quite incorrect).

When I enter the first 37 markers of the Irish Type III cluster, NT4BZ, it predicts R1b1b2-M269 100% probability. While this is
correct, this cluster is also P312+, L21+ and L226+, that is R1b1b2a1a2f4-L226.
When I enter my own results, 6PWCD, (and I am a member of the Irish Type III cluster), the predictor says, K-M9 100% probability.

I think your predictor has a fair way to go yet and I suggest you have a look at Jim Cullen's predictor,

Dennis Wright

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:]On Behalf Of Roman S
Sent: Monday, 1 November 2010 11:27 PM
Subject: [DNA] New web YPredictor!

Welcome to test a new YPredictor -
Predictions are based on the phylogenetic trees of each haplogroup,
calculating probability which depends on difference in marker values, marker
mutation rates and age of parent node.

1. Enter haplotypes in text field
The default marker order is FTDNA's, but you can select another order via
the Options button
You should not enter DYS 464e, f, or g
It is possible to use short haplotypes (for example with 12 markers)
For dividing markers use separators: , ; - or Space, Tab
For unknown values use any text symbols ('x', 'unknown', etc.) or skip value
but insert separator
For deletion values (in DYS 425, DYS 448, etc.) use 0
Only 20 (or less) haplotypes at time
2. Click button 'Convert to table'
3. Check markers values in table
4. Click button 'Predict'
5. Wait for results
6. If you need copy results: click button 'Copy results' and than paste in
Excel or text editor

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