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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Missed Opportunity
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:27:07 -0700
References: <00b601cb80f5$83efba20$384f2dae@Ken1><00f501cb8118$40cf3270$c26d9750$@org>

How would you know what an IJK haplotype looks like, so you could compare ?
I have never seen one.

You probably mean the European F* haplotypes of today look closer to the G
of today than to present-day I or J or other alternative clades?

Is the difference of interclade separations dramatic or modest?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lawrence Mayka" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Missed Opportunity

> My quick use of the Generations5 spreadsheet suggests that the F* now in
> Europe is closer to G than to IJK. And the authors' finding of F* next to
> G
> mildly supports the probability that this ancient F*, too, is in reality a
> pre-G.
> Thus, perhaps a higher priority is to:
> 1) Test our current European F* against the long list of SNPs currently
> believed to define G. Is it possible that European F* might test positive
> for one of them?
> 2) Similarly, test the ancient F* against that long list of G-defining
> SNPs.
>> From: [mailto:genealogy-dna-
>> ] On Behalf Of Ken Nordtvedt
>> As someone has already pointed out, the authors of this paper choose not
> to test for
>> any of the snps now available to test for IJ haplogroup. So these
> individuals could
>> very well have been from this haplogroup downstream of F.
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