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From: "Ricardo Costa de Oliveira" <>
Subject: [DNA] Rarity and nobility in the Old and New World
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:26:49 -0200

There’s a possible and necessary connection between rarity and nobility in
Western Europe. If the genesis of the European historical nobility is
related to ethnic war in the fall of the Western Roman Empire, as certain
documentation or imaginary prescribes, so a deep history of the European
social stratification would be revealed in terms of distinct STR-SNPs. Or
the European social structure is completely randomic in terms of the STR-SNP
distribution or there’s a historical structure of political differentiation
in the formation of the European demographics, perhaps not randomic but not
as rigid as the DNA differentiation of the Indian castes. The supposed DNA
of Louis XVI is a showcase under investigation. If the conventional
genealogies of the royalty were correct (what is doubtful in several cases),
the relative rarity of the “royal” lineage is a documented fact. The
political action of elites can shape ethnic, national, linguistic, cultural
or religious identities. We can assess the demographic impact in Europe and
in America of “New” European groups, with some distinct genetic profiles,
like the Jews and Roma (Gypsies) with very interesting histories.
Conventional Genealogy Degree Zero is a good starting point. What is
narrated of the origins of the first nobility ? In Portugal the first
documented genealogy, O Livro Velho das Linhagens, described the principal
family of the Sousãos in the heart of the Minho, coming from Uffo Belfager
(most probably an old Suebi name), a man that lived in the 800’s. Another
decisive lineage was the Bragançãos, from the strategic territory of
Bragança. The founder was D. Alam, the kidnapper of an Armenian Princess.
The legends and references are clearly situated in the stronghold of
Bragança as a supposed Alanic lordship that enabled the creation of the
Kingdom of Portugal, the first ethno-national State in Europe with a
continuous history. language and political frontier. Brazil has been the
most aristocratic society in the New World, a new territory and a new
frontier where the Ancien Regime planted deep roots. Brazil created a new
local nobility and reproduced the old social structures. The Brazilian D.
Pedro II would had the same Y DNA of Louis XVI. Not only the top-top
European pedigrees have been in Brazil, but we can try to recognize and
detect the DNA impact of the outsiders of the Roman Empire, groups like the
Jewish and Roma contributions and especially other “exotic” groups arriving
in Iberia as invaders and conquerors. The old Brazilian Colonial Elite had a
unique genetic profile in the world, mostly composed by Portuguese and other
European (Southern and Northern) contributions with small and distant, but
regular Amerindian and African little segments. No other American Colonial
Elite has had exactly the same genetic profile, the same history, the same
proportions, the same expansion and the same number. It’s a Brazilian
demography, the product of a specific aristocratic society of the Ancien
Regime. The Brazilian mtDNA is the closest thing to a “racial democracy” in
the world. The assimetry of the Brazilian mtDNA with the Brazilian Y DNA,
the creator of the Brazilian state-society in terms of the preservation of
the same language, religion, political institutions, army and the
responsibility of the conquest and colonization of the big Brazilian
territory. Mestiçagem is mainstream in Brazil and that’s a positive value.
The Suebi and Alans were an integrant part in the formation of the
Portuguese-Brazilian people. A region without diversity as in the case of a
big concentration of R1b only, would not be able to create a proper
independent or autonomous nobility and those places would not be able to
keep and create a proper ethno-national State (and later to build up an own
Empire) with it’s own institutions and language, what happened in parts of
the Western Atlantic high % R1b façade, in places and regions where the R1b
native peasantry were almost total without an internalised outside warrior

The Portuguese Suebi DNA will match some Northern European regions. The
Portuguese Alan DNA would be exceptionally rare.

Why Y DNA J1b and others eventually can be related to the Alans in the
Portuguese-Brazilian male stock ?

1 – Extreme rare haplogroup and extreme rare haplotypes. Almost total
isolation in Western Europe. An exotic Caucasian-Caspian Northern Middle
Eastern island in a sea of Western Atlantic Iberian R1b P-312
2 – The source area was located in the Caucasus, Eastern Anatolia, Armenia,
Caspian Sea. They came far from the East to the extreme West without a
connection with Jews (Judaism) or Arabs (Islamism), both also integrated and
incorporated in the Portuguese and Brazilian populations in different waves.
3 – No close matches outside of the ethnic group. Outside the
Portuguese-Brazilian haplotypes, the closest combination is found only
within certain Northern Iranian populations
4 – The temporal distance of the STR genetic distances separating the
Portuguese-Brazilian cases and the Iranians is estimated between 1600-2000
5 - Relative reproductive success and verifiable regular frequencies in any
population of Portuguese-Brazilian origin at regular rates.

6 – Status quo and longue durée of the exotic DNA ? Yes or no ?

Ricardo Costa de Oliveira

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