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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] New FTDNA Project Format
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:52:22 -0700
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And I would agree with your additional ideas; I thought I'd try to keep my
complaining concerning "the company" to a minimum! Ha!

It seems modal haplotypes have gone viral and are way overused --- pushed
well beyond there domain of usefulness. They often just add clutter to
spreadsheets I see.

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From: "SVass" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] New FTDNA Project Format

>I agree with your intent. There are multiple versions of Excel as well as
>multiple web browsers as well as multiple computer operating systems. All
>have some differences from each other. (I happen to use a Macintosh and
>have found an exotic method to recover the correct format. It will not
>work for other systems just as the proposed solutions will not work for
>me.) I do not blame the software developers as they can not easily test
>all combinations.
> That said, I agree that the public data should be exportable as a csv
> (comma separated values) file just as family finder allows for matches.
> (Even XML is not acceptable as Microsoft has only partially integrated
> that into its products. As to the colors used for off modal values, I
> will merely point out that the computed modals for many groups are
> irrelevant or just plain wrong since some projects combine many
> sub-haplogroups into one list that has many separate clusters with each
> deserving its own modal computation. I would also suggest that the rows
> for minima and maxima be eliminated.
> sam vass
> (software law KISS)
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Ken Nordtvedt wrote:
>> FTDNA should have put all their project spreadsheets out in excel in the
>> first place (or at least always offered it as an option) . It is a
>> format
>> and tool permitting data manipulation galore and widely possessed.
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