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From: Wilcox Lisa <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Draft Y tree
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:25:39 -0800
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Hi Vince--

Yeah, the poster pretty much reflects the draft tree. The poster looks much like the haplo tree you can follow for a given individual, i.e., with color distinctions and actual branches. When queried, FTDNA said:

"Thank you for your email. We will be updating the Haplotree on the website to agree with the changes. One of these will be the shifting of R1b1b2. This should take place over the next month or so.... [H]aplogroup tree and individual haplogroup assignments should all be converted at the same time."

Perhaps Thomas could explain this development? Yoo hoo! Thomas?


On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Vince Tilroe wrote:

> According to FTDNA's Draft Y tree for Haplogroup R at
> :
> R1b1b (FTDNA & ISOGG 2010) a.k.a. R-P297 may be re-mapped to R1b1a
> R1b1c (FTDNA & ISOGG 2010) a.k.a. R-M335 may be re-mapped to R1b1b
> R1b1a (FTDNA & ISOGG 2010) a.k.a. R-V88** may be re-mapped to R1b1c
> **R-M18 was sitting at R1b1c but gets bumped down below R-V88 to R1b1c1
> Thus R-M269 (currently R1b1b2) may become R1b1a2. I must admit that I
> don't understand the rational for this re-mapping proposal since none of
> the three R1b1 sub-trees has actually moved relative to each other, so
> I'm assuming it is simply the result of an error in the last update.
> Of course, this is only a draft tree proposal and may not necessary
> reflect the direction that FTDNA / the YCC intends to go with regards to
> the aforementioned hierarchal labelling. Did the new haplogroup posters
> given out at the FTDNA2010 conference reflect this update at all?
> Vince T.
> On 2010-11-14 6:56 PM, Wilcox Lisa wrote:
>> Is it just me, or has R1b1b2 vanished, apparently to be replaced by arcane R1a variants? If so, what does that mean for mankind?
>> Lisa
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