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From: "Anatole Klyosov" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Ursula's consorts?
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:37:29 -0500
> From: John Ozment <>
> Which male haplogroups were the European consorts of female (Cro-Magnon)
> Ursula 45,000 years ago? Haplogroup B out of Africa? Neanderthals
> supposedly last survived around Burgos, northern Spain, but were they in
> Greece 45K years ago? Hg-R1b and Hg-I and variants are apparently too
> young. My mtDNA is U5b2b / U5b2b3-proposed (U5-Ursula) from
> Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania. "Using a lot of data, Anatole discovered in
> 2008 that R1b in Europe is young."--Sasson
I would vote for haplogroup I, or IJ. I have tentatively justified this
hypothesis in a paper link to which was provided in a discussion with
Dienekes ("DNA Genealogy, Craniometry, and Origin of Europeoids",
Proceedings, 2010 August, 1256-1309). The paper is in Russian, though.