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From: (John Chandler)
Subject: Re: [DNA] P value (was chances are, it's wrong)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:31:53 -0500
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In-Reply-To: <> (message from James Heald on Sat, 20Nov 2010 22:54:39 +0000)

James wrote:
> Suppose the upper confidence limit is 50 generations. That means that
> if the TMRCA actually was 50 generations, it would produce n or fewer
> mutations 5% of the time.

You are mistaking confidence in the outcome for confidence in the
estimate. The 95% confidence interval for an estimated parameter
is the range which includes 95% of the cumulative probability
distribution for that parameter. This somewhat arbitrary interval
is popular because it happens to coincide very nearly with the
"plus or minus two standard deviations" range of a Gaussian. In
terms of percentiles, the interval runs from 2.5 to 97.5, meaning
that the likelihood of exceeding the upper limit is only 2.5%, not
5%, and the likelihood of falling below the lower limit is the other

John Chandler

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