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From: Vincent Vizachero <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] R1b and R1a fate
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 03:35:29 -0500
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Didier,

The Altai origin hypothesis is "much attacked" because it depends on
faulty data or, at best, faulty analysis of the data.

Some have taken the Zhong et al. R1b haplotypes and have
misinterpreted them in a number of important ways.

Although there are several subclades of R1b present in the Zhong
dataset from various central and eastern Asian populations (Han,
Uighur, etc.), the variance - and thus the estimated TMRCA - for
R1b1*, R1b1b1, and R1b1b2 are uniformly lower than for populations in
SW Asia or SE Europe.

You are wise to hedge against an Altaic origin of R1b because, indeed,
the data tell a different story.

VV



On Nov 29, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Didir Vernade wrote:

> I noticed that you
> have been very much attacked on the Altai origin.


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