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From: (Dennis Ahern)
Subject: Re: What is the meaning of the term "Scot-Irish"
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:31:01 +0000 (UTC)
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Mike Day () wrote:

: "Sean MacLochlainn" <> wrote in message
: news:b4go0t$sf0$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
: > Peter Norman wrote:
: >
: > > And Ulster is still effectively ruled by those of Scots-Irish descent
: > > i.e. the Presbyterian majority of the current population.
: >
: > I think you had better check your facts. Presbyterians are a minority.
: >
: And not all of Ulster either. Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan are not part of
: the political entity of Northern Ireland.

The political entity of Northern Ireland is comprised of only six of the
nine counties of the province of Ulster. At the time of partition in
1922, the counties of Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan were deemed to be too
heavily populated with Catholics and were "given" to the Irish Free State
in order to maintain a numerical majority of Protestants.

See http://www.cultureireland.com/maps/ for map of the provinces.

As for the original question of the meaning of the term "Scots-Irish" or
"Scotch-Irish", this appelation was adopted in the U.S. in the mid-19th
century by the descendants of 17th- and 18th-century Irish immigrants who
wanted to disassociate themselves from the horde of famine refugees who
crowded into the port cities of North America, impoverished, malnourished,
and diseased. Because the famine was more severe in the southern and
western parts of Ireland, these immigrants also tended more often to be
Catholic, which further aggravated Americans of the Nativist persuasion.

-dja


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