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From: "Sean MacLochlainn" <>
Subject: Earliest Irish Surname Continued (was Re: codswallow?)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 12:52:42 -0000
References: <b4_ba.27186$q26.1568173@read1.cgocable.net> <b4q0bm$suo$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk> <0Qhea.32666$q26.1916207@read1.cgocable.net> <b5dbdf$fse$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk> <HsCea.275$es1.177427@read2.cgocable.net>


Alan O'Neill wrote:
>> Well present the evidence then instead of waffling.
>
> The O'Neills of Leinster
> an investigation into the origins of the O'Neills of Magh da chonn -
> Myacomb - Lienster
> by Sean O'Neill
<snip>


So could you outline the evidence that shows that your Domhnall ua Niall
did not have a grandfather
named Niall? This is vital, because if Domhnall's genealogy is:

Niall>grandfather>father>Domhnall

then Ua Niall is indeed a fixed surname, but if his genealogy is:

Niall>father>Domhnall

then ua Niall is just a nickname meaning 'grandson of Niall'.

The Ua Cleirigh claim I referred to earlier *is* backed up by a genealogy
proving that the person concerned was *not* grandson of someone named
Cleirigh.

Sean










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