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From: "Brian Miller of North Shields UK" <>
Subject: Re: [WW1] Northumberland Fusiliers - Jacob MILLER
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:54:42 -0000
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OUTSTANDING INFO.
Cheers
Brian.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Iain Kerr" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WW1] Northumberland Fusiliers - Jacob MILLER


> At 00:13 01/11/00, Brian Miller of North Shields UK wrote:
> >WEB SITE > http://www.brianmiller.freeserve.co.uk
> >########################################
> >Hi all,
> >looking for info on my grandfather who served 1914-1919 as part of the
> >Northumberland Fusiliers.
> >
> >Jacob MILLER born Murton, New York, Northumberland UK 1894.
> >
> >He did not die, however surely there must be some way to find out info on
> >him during his tour of duty.
>
> Brian,
>
> I am uncertain as to whether I have offered this advice to you before.
But
> ....
>
> The British armed services personnel records for those serving in 1914 up
> to 1921 are currently being released from the Ministry of Defence to the
> Public Record Office, Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU, United
> Kingdom; (Telephone: General Enquiries, ++44 (020) 8876 3444; Records
> Information, ++44 (020) 8392 5200; Fax: ++44 (020) 8878 8905). There they
> are being microfilmed to occupy a number of new archives. This is a major
> project that is forecast to take a number of years to complete from the
> start of the work in 1997. The original documents cannot be viewed due to
> their fragile condition. It will be some years before all surviving
> information from these documents will be available remotely due to the
> complexity of the information and volume. The records are available in
the
> PRO microfilm reading room as follows:
> The so-called "burnt" British Army Other Ranks records for surnames
> beginning with A, B, C, D, E, F, N, O, Q, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y and Z.
These
> are in WO 363 - First World War Soldiers' Documents. Those beginning R
> will be available in Autumn 2000 and P in Winter 2000. The year 2001
> includes those beginning K, L and M. In 2002 those starting H, I and J
> will be released. The programme concludes in Summer 2003 with the letter
G.
>
> You should note that there is some risk that the official archives of more
> recent British Army personnel records are incomplete. It is reported that
> up to half of the original pre-World War II British Army soldier's
personal
> records were badly damaged by fire and water following a 1940 German
> bombing raid on the Hayes Record Office during World War II. Those that
> survived are often incomplete and in a poor condition.
>
> World War I Medal Rolls
>
> If the serviceman or woman survived World War I and served long enough
> overseas to qualify for campaign medals, then they should be found in the
> Medal Rolls held at the PRO Kew. The rolls record service (campaign)
medal
> and honours and awards; the lists are kept in class WO 329. These rolls
> however give little or no personal information being confined to the unit,
> service number, theatres of war in which the individual served, and the
> medals awarded. Those who served in France and Flanders between 5 Aug and
> 22 Nov 1914 received the 1914 Star (the "Old Contemptibles" medal). Those
> who served in any war zones between 5 Aug 1914 and 31 Dec 1915 were
awarded
> the 1914-15 Star. All British and imperial servicemen and women who
served
> outside the UK between 1914 and 1920 were given the British War Medal and
> British forces over the same period also received the Victory Medal. [The
> three medals 1914 or 1914/15 Star, the War Medal and the Victory Medal
> became known as "Pip, Squeak and Wilfred" to old soldiers.]
>
> All of these PRO records are open for personal search by the enquirer or a
> nominated agent. Details of the PRO can be found at their web site URL:
> http://www.pro.gov.uk/
> The PRO do not have an on-line searchable archive. Nor do they usually
> undertake any research for personal or postal enquirers. However they
> have a list of independent researchers, with a useful search facility. The
> address is: http://www.pro.gov.uk/readers/irlist/default.htm
> And to learn more about his regiment. In World War I, The Northumberland
> Fusiliers raised a total of 51 battalions based on the pre-war
> establishment of two regular, one reserve and ten territorial force
> battalions. These included four service and one reserve Tyneside Scottish
> battalions and four service and one reserve Tyneside Irish Battalions.
The
> regiment was awarded 67 battle honours and five of its officers and men
> were awarded the Victoria Cross. The Northumberland Fusiliers lost a
total
> 0f 16,000 casualties during the Great War. As a result of this almost
> unrivalled contribution, the regiment was granted the title Royal, and was
> henceforward known as The Royal Northumberland Fusiliers.
>
> Regimental Museums
>
> Fusiliers Museum of Northumberland, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
> Northumberland Headquarters, The Abbot's Tower, Alnwick Castle, Alnwick,
> Northumberland NE66 1HW, United Kingdom; Phone: (01665) 602152; email
> The museum offers colours, medals (five Victoria
> Crosses), paintings, weapons and campaign souvenirs, uniforms and
equipment
> and Regimental Silver of the regular and territorial battalions of the 5th
> Fusiliers (until amalgamated into the Royal Regiment of
> Fusiliers). Includes some detail on the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers since
> amalgamation. Holds the regimental archives (which do not include
> personnel records). Web site:
> http://www.northumberlandfusiliers.org.uk/contact.html
>
>
> Yours aye,
>
> Iain Kerr
> In Windsor, Berkshire
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