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From: Iain Kerr <>
Subject: Re: [WW1] Percy Hotspur LLOYD-JONES
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 21:20:32 +0000
In-Reply-To: <39FFDA6F.2049@xtra.co.nz>


At 08:55 01/11/00, Thomas family wrote:
>My name is Sue Thomas and I am trying to find out more details about my
>great uncle Percy Hotspur LLOYD-JONES. I do not know when he was born
>but he married my great aunt Eileen HUDSON in 1913 and was killed on
>October 16th 1916. I have found out he was in the 9th Battalion of the
>Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) and gave his residence as
>London, W. I also know he was a Lance Corporal 15766.
>
>Can anyone tell me where to find out more about him particularly any
>personal details such as date of birth or parents?
>
>I have found him on the War Graves site (along with another Percy
>LLOYD-JONES who won a DSO) but unfortunately that does not give any
>details.
>
>The only other fact I know about him was he was a journalist; that is
>stated on his wife's death certificate.

Sue,

"Soldiers Died" adds very little more (after misspelling his Christian
names as "Perey Hetspur") save that he enlisted in Whitehall and that he
was Killed in Action.

The 9th (Service) Battalion, The Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment)
was formed at Hounslow on 21 Aug 1914. It was assigned to the first of
Kitchener's new armies and was assigned to 36th Brigade in 12th Division at
Colchester. In Nov 1914 the battalion moved to Hythe, Kent and in Feb 1915
to Aldershot for final training. In May 1915 it embarked for France and
Flanders. The 8th Battalion ended the war on 11 Nov 1918 in the same
formations east of Orchies, France.

To learn more, you need to search for his personnel records, if they have
survived. The British armed services personnel records for those serving
in 1914 up to 1921 are currently being released from the Ministry of
Defence to the Public Record Office, Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond, Surrey
TW9 4DU, United Kingdom; (Telephone: General Enquiries, ++44 (020) 8876
3444; Records Information, ++44 (020) 8392 5200; Fax: ++44 (020) 8878
8905). There they are being microfilmed to occupy a number of new
archives. This is a major project that is forecast to take a number of
years to complete from the start of the work in 1997. The original
documents cannot be viewed due to their fragile condition. It will be some
years before all surviving information from these documents will be
available remotely due to the complexity of the information and
volume. The records are available in the PRO microfilm reading room as
follows:

The so-called "burnt" British Army Other Ranks records for surnames
beginning with A, B, C, D, E, F, N, O, Q, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y and Z. These
are in WO 363 - First World War Soldiers' Documents. Those beginning R
will be available in Autumn 2000 and P in Winter 2000. The year 2001
includes those beginning K, L and M. In 2002 those starting H, I and J
will be released. The programme concludes in Summer 2003 with the letter G.

You should note that there is some risk that the official archives of more
recent British Army personnel records are incomplete. It is reported that
up to half of the original pre-World War II British Army soldier's personal
records were badly damaged by fire and water following a 1940 German
bombing raid on the Hayes Record Office during World War II. Those that
survived are often incomplete and in a poor condition.

These records are open for personal search by the enquirer or a nominated
agent. Details of the PRO can be found at their web site URL:
http://www.pro.gov.uk/

The PRO do not have an on-line searchable archive. Nor do they usually
undertake any research for personal or postal enquirers. However they
have a list of independent researchers, with a useful search facility. The
address is: http://www.pro.gov.uk/readers/irlist/default.htm


Yours aye,

Iain Kerr
In Windsor, Berkshire
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