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From: "James ELLIS" <>
Subject: Re: [WW1] Grenadier Guards
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:35:48 +0100
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010801055600.00a32740@pop.clara.net>


Dear Iain,
I have gleaned a great deal of information from your reply to Andrew and
would once again ask for your assitance . Can you please inform me if there
is an entry for
Anthony Roberts ELLIS Private 18327 1st Bn Grenadier Guards who died on
Saturday 15th May 1915. in the Soldiers Died in the Great War database CD.
I am hoping it contains a reference to a next of kin.
Thank you yet again.
James.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Iain Kerr" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WW1] William Draycott, Grenadier Guards


> At 22:06 31/07/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >Dear list,
> >
> >Can anyone make a suggestion for this confusing extract (to me at least)
> >from a newspaper report into the death of Private William H Draycott,
> >Grenadier Guards. He died in May 1915.
> >
> >".....he died of wounds sustained at Rawal Pinde...at the British General
> >Hospital, Wimereux in France....he was amongst the first contingents to
be
> >drafted to France....he had been through all the big engagements since
the
> >commencement of the fighting......"
> >
> >Rawal Pinde anayone?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Andrew
>
> Andrew,
>
> "Soldiers Died in the Great War" has the following:
>
> 16183 Guardsman William Henry DRAYCOTT, 1st Battalion, Grenadier Guards;
> born Manchester, enlisted Nottingham; Died of Wounds 27 May 1915 in France
> and Flanders. [Note that the term "Guardsman" was granted by King George V
> only on 22 November 1918, prior to which date, the term "Private" was
used.]
>
>
> "Location of Hospitals and Casualty Clearing Stations, BEF, 1914-1919"
> compiled by Ministry of Pensions on 23 Jul 1923; published by the Imperial
> War Museum indicates that the Rawal Pindi British General Hospital was
> based at Wimereux (Aubergue) from Jan 1915 until an unknown date. The
> hospital had been based at Marseilles from Oct 1914 to Jan 1915.
>
> The Rawal Pindi (Rawalpindi today) British General Hospital and the Lahore
> British General Hospital appear to have been formed from British medical
> units based in India and sent to France in October 1914 with the large
> contingent from the Indian Army, that included many British Army units.
>
> "British Regiments, 1914-1919"; by Brigadier E A James; published in two
> volumes in single volume 4th Edition in 1993 by Naval and Military Press,
> London; ISBN 0 906304 03 2 and "British Battalions on the Western Front;
> Neuve Chapelle, Ypres, Aubers Ridge, Festubert; January - June 1915"; by
> Ray Westlake; ISBN 0 85052 768-6 indicate the battalions history in the
> Great War as follows:
>
> The 1st Battalion, Grenadier Guards was based in Warley, London District
on
> the outbreak of war on 4 Aug 1914. In Sep 1914 it was assigned to 20th
> Brigade in 7th Division at Lyndhurst, Hampshire. On 7 Oct 1914 it
embarked
> for France and Flanders to join the British Expeditionary Force, landing
at
> Zeebrugge. Between Jan and Apr 1915 it served on the Flerbaix
> sector. Between 10 and 13 Mar 1915 the battalion played a major part in
> the Battle of Neuve Chapelle, where Lance Corporal W D Fuller and Private
E
> Barber were awarded the Victoria Cross. The battalion suffered 16
officers
> and 325 solder casualties during the battle. The battalion carried out
> further tours in the front line and used reserve billets at Estaires for
> the remainder of mar and Apr. The battalion moved to Bethune on 10 may
and
> Hinges on 11 May. On 15 May it took over trenches at Festubert and was in
> action the next day, occupying front and second line trenches. It moved
> back to Hinges on 19 May and then into billets at Robecq. The 1st
> Battalion was in the trenches in front of Festubert between 1 and 5 Jun,
> then moved to Hingette and to Robecq on 8 Jun. It returned to the front
> line on 14 Jun and took part in an attack near Givenchy on 15 Jun
suffering
> three officer and 63 soldier casualties. The battalion moved to Gorre on
> 19 Jun and to Les Choquaux on 21 Jun. On 24 Jun it took over trenches
> between Givenchy and the La Bassèe Canal. The battalion was relieved on
27
> Jun and moved to La Prèol and to Busnes on 30 Jun. On 4 Aug 1915, the
> battalion was transferred to 3rd Guards Brigade in the Guards
> Division. The battalion ended the war in the same formation on 11 Nov
1918
> at Maubeuge, France.
>
> Regimental Museum
>
> The Guards Museum, Wellington Barracks, Birdcage Walk, London SW1E 6HQ,
> United Kingdom; Phone: +44 (0) 207 414 3271. Exhibits of weapons,
uniforms,
> colours and Trophies illustrate 300 year history of the Grenadier,
> Coldstream, Scots, Welsh and Irish Guards, with displays of Waterloo,
> Crimea, World War II and Falklands.
>
> Being a set of "family" regiments, the Brigade of Guards have maintained
> duplicates of personnel documents and are often able to identify which
> regiment, and battalion, a man served in and to allow documents to be
> copied. Contact the Regimental Archivist, Regimental Headquarters,
> Grenadier Guards, Wellington Barracks, Birdcage Walk, LONDON SW1E 6HQ,
> United Kingdom.
>
> In addition any surviving personal documents will be archived at the PRO,
Kew.
>
> Yours aye,
>
> Iain Kerr in Windsor, Berkshire, United Kingdom
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