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From: Marek Lesniewski-Laas <>
Subject: RE: von Speidel
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:06:47 -0400
In-Reply-To: <2409A35B3E1C8D4D929583798DF5AA78D7D19A@whmail01.walterhav.com>


Hello Leon,

Thank you for your research. Klaus Liwowski located barons von Speidel in
the German GOTHA
and in Kneschkes Adels-Lexikon.

It is interesting how a word meaning "carpenter's wedge" became a name of a
baronial family?

Best wishes,

Marek Lesniewski-Laas

At 02:28 PM 8/4/2003 -0400, Leon Stevens wrote:
> > without the 'von' <
>
>Siebmacher lists three armigerous "Burger" (bourgeois or townsman)
>Speidel families in Germany proper, but none in the former so-called
>"Grand Duchy of Poznan." These would not have been entitled to use the
>nominal preposition "von." ("Speidel" means "carpenter's wedge.")


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