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From: "David Zincavage" <>
Subject: Re: The Pokrzywnicki (Bock) family's real coat of arms - a puzzling case : clarification to previous post
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 13:11:45 -0700
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I see. Yes, that type of decorative element has nothing to do with the
armorial achievement really. It is just a kind of background boiler-plate.
I have often seen garlands, wreaths, and crossed branches of of laurel
and/or oak in 19th century drawings of Russian and German coats of arms.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikolai v. Pock" <>
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Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:11 PM
Subject: The Pokrzywnicki (Bock) family's real coat of arms - a puzzling
case : clarification to previous post


>
> 07.08.2003
>
>
> The Pokrzywnicki (Bock) family's real coat of arms - a
> puzzling case : clarification to previous post
>
>
>
> Many thanks for the first response to my post!
>
> Just to be quite clear about it, when writing about
> "palm fronds" surrounding the shield, I am not talking
> about a mantling (
> http://www.knightsofheraldry.com/elements.html )
>
> I rather mean a garland like that shown at
>
> http://www.msacomputer.com/bc/CoatOfArms/COA-BC-First.jpg
>
> or with a COA at
>
> http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/p/pt-pcv.gif
>
> These pictures are just lucky finds of the moment and
> only meant to clarify what kind of thing I mean, but
> rather not to be the same as on the COA of Stanislaus
> Pokrzywnicki.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nikolai von Pock
> Berlin, Germany
>
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