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From: molly <>
Subject: Re: [IOWA] Names/gotta love it!
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 09:23:58 -0700
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You want to know whats bad,lol...when your Irish family sticks to the
naming pattern no matter what! I have a branch to my (O)CONNELL family
where both the father and mothers fathers were named John.
The father was also John as was the mothers oldest surviving
brother.Yup...all 4 sons were called by their middle names,but their
given names were ALL JOHN!!!!
I had an uncle whos given name was James,but took on the name John
after a brother who died young.When my uncle died in 2000,
he was buried with the name John on his tombstone...this will makes
future research hard,since we also have the burial place of the
younger brother who WAS John.My uncles wife,who died in 1995 was named
Sadie.
She somehow went by the name Rita,but my uncle called her Tillie.
She is buried next to uncle John as Rita.So here we have James and
Sadie buried as John and Rita.
In the 1880 census,my grand-father Charles Francis MOODY is listed as
Michael C.,now whats up with this?? He was b.1878 in Canada,so it had
to be a parent who gave the info...
So,my point here,I think, is a name does not have to stand necessarily
for a shortened nickname of the original,it could come from
anywhere.How my aunt got to be Rita is a mystery.She was b.Sadie DUNN
in NY and was buried as Rita MOODY....This should pose some
interesting research for future genealogists,lol...All I can do is
document it,and hopefully,somehow,someway,they will find my notes!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon Rae Becker" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [IOWA] Names


> Sorry, Lori. I meant to post this for the entire list. Guess my mind
went
> out to lunch.
> : ( Sharon
>
> >
> > I don't think it was a German "thing" to recycle names. My English
Quaker
> > side recycled their names, too. I noticed that there was a pattern
to
> their
> > use of names.
> >
> > The oldest son was named after the grandfather. So, Isaac's
first-born son
> > would be named Thomas. Thomas's first-born son would be named
Isaac. Other
> > family names that were used generation after generation were
William,
> John,
> > Sarah, Elizabeth, and Lucy. This "tradition" spanned from 925 to
the
> middle
> > 1800's. (925 is as far back as I have been able to go.) It seems
that when
> > the families started moving into Iowa, Kansas, and Nebraska, They
dropped
> > the tradition of recycling names.
> >
> > Makes for great research, doesn't it? I've had to spend many an
hour
> trying
> > to keep all of those names straight! Without reference charts, I
get lost
> > when I work on this family.
> >
> > Sharon Becker
> > Osceola, Clarke Co., Iowa
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IOWA] Names
> >
> >
> > > Hi, all!!
> > > This discussion of names is very interesting, and maybe
someone
> could
> > help me
> > > find an answer about my ancestor's names. On both my mother's
and
> > father's sides of
> > > my family, there is a "recycling" of the same names, even on the
same
> > group of kids
> > > in the same generation. For instance, on my mother's side her
father
> and
> > brothers
> > > are Henry Otto, Otto Herman, Edward Herman and two girls named
Hedwig
> and
> > Hedwick
> > > both with different middle names(one middle name was Louise and
I have
> to
> > look up
> > > the other). On my father's side, we have Henry Alfred and
Marlan Henry,
> > and Anthony
> > > John and Harold Anthony. The next generation back does the same
kind of
> > > "recycling". Is that common or is that a peculiar German habit?
All
> the
> > names I've
> > > given are from from first generation Americans of German
descent.
> > > Any ideas? Thanks and I hope you are all having a good
day!!
> > > Lori
> > >
> > > Bill Houdek wrote:
> > >
> > > > The whole subject of how one is named can or has opened a
whole
> > > > new or old line of discussion.
> > > >
> > > > My given names are William Richard. My paternal g/father was
Richard
> > > > and my maternal g/father was William. My Mother knew I would
always
> > > > be called by the nick-name and she did not like Dick so the
order of
> > > > my
> > > > given names were decided that way.
> > > >
> > > > Our son-in-law is Frank Mike and goes by Mike. His father is
Mike
> > > > Frank
> > > > and is called Frank. My father was Paul King and went by P.K.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Houdek
> > > >
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