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From: Ora <>
Subject: Re: [LEWIS-L] Who Owned Maine?
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 17:40:45 -0500


Get a grip! This is getting out of hand!

Billie R. Lewis wrote:

> I hate to be nasty, but you are just plain stupid or too lazy to look
> in any books for documentation. Why do you even bother to find your
> relatives? If the genes they handed down to you are what you are
> displaying in brain power, I wouldn't waste the time if I were you.
> This is the last message I shall read from you so don't bother your
> crummy fingers to type any more. You'll get erased without being read.
> BRL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan L. Court <>
> To: <>
> Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [LEWIS-L] Who Owned Maine?
>
> >It never happened! If it did, you should write about it and be
> famous.
> >
> >"Billie R. Lewis" wrote:
> >>
> >> Bryan, I think you need to read a little more carefully. I said
> they
> >> were "British residents" which means they were still residents of
> the
> >> British Isles but had trading posts along the coast of Maine. I
> never
> >> said they were "Maine residents."
> >>
> >> I think you need to write to the Maine libraries or study your New
> >> England history a bit more. Even though Maine was not chartered
> until
> >> 1639 by King Charles I, as the "Countie of Mayne" ( the original
> >> constitution was written in 1819), entrepreneurs (fisherman and
> >> traders) had set up trading posts along the coast of today's
> Maine
> >> before the Pilgrims came on the "Mayflower." I presume you do know
> >> that date.
> >>
> >> " WHEN THE PILGRIMS ARRIVED THEY REPORTED A THRIVING FISHING AND
> >> TRADING POST AT PENNAQUID." (ref: Vol 13, AMERICAN PEOPLES
> >> ENCYCLOPEDIA. Also see Bradford's PLIMOUTH PLANTATION). I presume
> you
> >> know "Pennaquid" is in New England. "The New England coast had
> been
> >> familliar territory to English fishermen and fur traders long
> before
> >> the 'Mayflower.'" (ref: Time-Life NEW ENGLAND; p. 56)
> >>
> >> Records in England, which I have seen personally, document that
> there
> >> were trading posts along the coast of Maine. How do you think
> Squanto
> >> learned English and was back in the New World not once but twice
> >> before he was there to greet the Pilgrims? He had been kidnapped
> from
> >> today's Plymouth, Mass
> >>
> >> It is believe that the Cabots, John and his three sons, were on the
> >> Maine Coast in the 1400's and Weymouth was definitely there in
> 1609
> >> as were others if you are interested enough to read history.
> >>
> >> I don't intend to waste my time to teaching you, but for the
> benefit
> >> of others who will read your snide message, I would like to say
> that
> >> you shouldn't show your ignorance while trying to be a "know it
> all."
> >> You either had a poor history teacher or forgot what you knew. On
> the
> >> other hand, even if you have forgotten what you learned in school
> one
> >> would think you would know how to look up something before
> spouting
> >> off, possibly while trying to appear cute. Again "British
> >> Residents" means just that! Not Maine residents." Even one
> hundred
> >> years prior to 1620 seems to be a "long" time to me.
> >>
> >> Please don't respond to this because I don't want my mail
> cluttered.
> >> The one thing I have always liked about genealogy was the aura
> which
> >> seemed to be around the nice people searching family history, but
> >> somehow that light is dimming rapidly.
> >>
> >> Billie Redding Lewis
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bryan L. Court <>
> >> To: <>
> >> Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 12:41 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [LEWIS-L] Who Owned Maine?
> >>
> >> >I had thought I heard everything. There were NO British residents
> in
> >> >Maine before 1620 when the Pilgrims came. Where in the world is
> your
> >> >source for this. Who were the British residents long BEFORE
> 1620???
> >> >=========================================
> >> >
> >> >"Billie R. Lewis" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Maine was a fishing village occupied by British residents long
> >> before
> >> >> the Mayflower Pilgrims came. Various encyclopedia volumes give
> much
> >> >> history on the colony of Maine and its wars and occupants. My
> >> Redding
> >> >> family who married into the Lewis family lived in Maine on the
> >> Redding
> >> >> Islands but the Lewis family, including the Redding daughter and
> >> some
> >> >> of her brothers were killed in the 1600's during the Indian
> Wars.
> >> BRL
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Kathleen T. Choi <>
> >> >> To: <>
> >> >> Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 7:51 PM
> >> >> Subject: [LEWIS-L] Who Owned Maine?
> >> >>
> >> >> >I suspect Maine was acquired through right of conquest, that it
> >> >> >previously belonged to the British, who acquired it through
> Indian
> >> >> >treaties and the French and Indian War. However, I'm just
> >> guessing.
> >> >> >When you go to the Bureau of Land Management site, the original
> >> >> >individual deeds include a line with the date on which the
> >> government
> >> >> >acquired the land. That would give you a clue, I would think.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I suspect we got it thanks to the Revolution. I think this
> >> because
> >> >> so
> >> >> >many of my relatives moved up there after the war. The land
> was
> >> >> free,
> >> >> >of course, to veterans, which would make it attractive,
> especially
> >> to
> >> >> >younger sons. However, the government gave away or sold
> extremely
> >> >> cheap
> >> >> >land it wanted settled on other occasions. Those of my family
> who
> >> >> lived
> >> >> >in Maine prior to the Revolution lived in the coastal towns.
> The
> >> >> >veterans all moved inland.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Kathleen
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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