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From: Linda Kralman-Lambert <>
Subject: Re: [LEWIS-L] Who Owned Maine?
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 15:53:23 -0700


Listowner...........you can put both of these people on the reject list so
that we don't have to be subjected to this childish behavior.

Linda

At 05:24 PM 7/5/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>I hate to be nasty, but you are just plain stupid or too lazy to look
>in any books for documentation. Why do you even bother to find your
>relatives? If the genes they handed down to you are what you are
>displaying in brain power, I wouldn't waste the time if I were you.
>This is the last message I shall read from you so don't bother your
>crummy fingers to type any more. You'll get erased without being read.
>BRL
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bryan L. Court <>
>To: <>
>Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 4:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [LEWIS-L] Who Owned Maine?
>
>
>>It never happened! If it did, you should write about it and be
>famous.
>>
>>"Billie R. Lewis" wrote:
>>>
>>> Bryan, I think you need to read a little more carefully. I said
>they
>>> were "British residents" which means they were still residents of
>the
>>> British Isles but had trading posts along the coast of Maine. I
>never
>>> said they were "Maine residents."
>>>
>>> I think you need to write to the Maine libraries or study your New
>>> England history a bit more. Even though Maine was not chartered
>until
>>> 1639 by King Charles I, as the "Countie of Mayne" ( the original
>>> constitution was written in 1819), entrepreneurs (fisherman and
>>> traders) had set up trading posts along the coast of today's
>Maine
>>> before the Pilgrims came on the "Mayflower." I presume you do know
>>> that date.
>>>
>>> " WHEN THE PILGRIMS ARRIVED THEY REPORTED A THRIVING FISHING AND
>>> TRADING POST AT PENNAQUID." (ref: Vol 13, AMERICAN PEOPLES
>>> ENCYCLOPEDIA. Also see Bradford's PLIMOUTH PLANTATION). I presume
>you
>>> know "Pennaquid" is in New England. "The New England coast had
>been
>>> familliar territory to English fishermen and fur traders long
>before
>>> the 'Mayflower.'" (ref: Time-Life NEW ENGLAND; p. 56)
>>>
>>> Records in England, which I have seen personally, document that
>there
>>> were trading posts along the coast of Maine. How do you think
>Squanto
>>> learned English and was back in the New World not once but twice
>>> before he was there to greet the Pilgrims? He had been kidnapped
>from
>>> today's Plymouth, Mass
>>>
>>> It is believe that the Cabots, John and his three sons, were on the
>>> Maine Coast in the 1400's and Weymouth was definitely there in
>1609
>>> as were others if you are interested enough to read history.
>>>
>>> I don't intend to waste my time to teaching you, but for the
>benefit
>>> of others who will read your snide message, I would like to say
>that
>>> you shouldn't show your ignorance while trying to be a "know it
>all."
>>> You either had a poor history teacher or forgot what you knew. On
>the
>>> other hand, even if you have forgotten what you learned in school
>one
>>> would think you would know how to look up something before
>spouting
>>> off, possibly while trying to appear cute. Again "British
>>> Residents" means just that! Not Maine residents." Even one
>hundred
>>> years prior to 1620 seems to be a "long" time to me.
>>>
>>> Please don't respond to this because I don't want my mail
>cluttered.
>>> The one thing I have always liked about genealogy was the aura
>which
>>> seemed to be around the nice people searching family history, but
>>> somehow that light is dimming rapidly.
>>>
>>> Billie Redding Lewis
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bryan L. Court <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 12:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [LEWIS-L] Who Owned Maine?
>>>
>>> >I had thought I heard everything. There were NO British residents
>in
>>> >Maine before 1620 when the Pilgrims came. Where in the world is
>your
>>> >source for this. Who were the British residents long BEFORE
>1620???
>>> >=========================================
>>> >
>>> >"Billie R. Lewis" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Maine was a fishing village occupied by British residents long
>>> before
>>> >> the Mayflower Pilgrims came. Various encyclopedia volumes give
>much
>>> >> history on the colony of Maine and its wars and occupants. My
>>> Redding
>>> >> family who married into the Lewis family lived in Maine on the
>>> Redding
>>> >> Islands but the Lewis family, including the Redding daughter and
>>> some
>>> >> of her brothers were killed in the 1600's during the Indian
>Wars.
>>> BRL
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Kathleen T. Choi <>
>>> >> To: <>
>>> >> Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 7:51 PM
>>> >> Subject: [LEWIS-L] Who Owned Maine?
>>> >>
>>> >> >I suspect Maine was acquired through right of conquest, that it
>>> >> >previously belonged to the British, who acquired it through
>Indian
>>> >> >treaties and the French and Indian War. However, I'm just
>>> guessing.
>>> >> >When you go to the Bureau of Land Management site, the original
>>> >> >individual deeds include a line with the date on which the
>>> government
>>> >> >acquired the land. That would give you a clue, I would think.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I suspect we got it thanks to the Revolution. I think this
>>> because
>>> >> so
>>> >> >many of my relatives moved up there after the war. The land
>was
>>> >> free,
>>> >> >of course, to veterans, which would make it attractive,
>especially
>>> to
>>> >> >younger sons. However, the government gave away or sold
>extremely
>>> >> cheap
>>> >> >land it wanted settled on other occasions. Those of my family
>who
>>> >> lived
>>> >> >in Maine prior to the Revolution lived in the coastal towns.
>The
>>> >> >veterans all moved inland.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Kathleen
>>> >> >
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