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Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER-L] BAIRD
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:30:52 EST


In a message dated 11/5/98 11:16:18 PM !!!First Boot!!!, RIFNRAF writes:

> Subj:Re: [NJHUNTER-L] BAIRD
> Date:11/5/98 11:16:18 PM !!!First Boot!!!
> From:RIFNRAF
> To:Phebefelix
>
> Doris,
> You could be right i just recieved a message saying that Elizabeth was born
> 11/8/1762 and her parents were William Baird and Alice Vancliff. Elizabeth
> married to Henry Brokaw. Close to what you have but different dates. What do
> you think?
> Bill

Hi, Bill. Well, I am not sure what to think about this. It was common for
women named Elsje to call themselves Alice. But she would more likely than
not have had to have been a second wife to William Baird born February 24
1703-04 in order to have a child born in 1762. William's daughter Elizabeth
Baird who married Henry Cruser (there is absolutely no question of this
marriage, December 1 1755, by the way, and Henry Cruser didn't die until 1789
so there was no marriage by this first Elizabeth to Henry Brokaw) - the first
Elizabeth was born May 20 1735 which fits with William's age better. But I
have no birth date for Elsje Van Cleef and so don't know how old she would
have been in 1762 when the second Elizabeth was born. I find it extremely
doubtful that a second daughter Elizabeth would have been so named in a single
family when a first Elizabeth was still living (first Elizabeth died in 1805).
Second Elizabeth who married Henry Brokaw we now know was born in 1762 gave
birth to a daughter February 19 1786 and was probably married not long before
that. Her father would have been born approximately 20-25 years before 1762
which would place him in the generation of first Elizabeth. If both
Elizabeths had fathers named William Baird, I am wondering if the first
William had a son William, brother to first Elizabeth and father to second
Elizabeth. I don't believe the two Elizabeths had a mother named Elsje or
Alice Van Cleef, although these coincidences certainly happened in real life
in these tight communities. But I suspect we will find that the mother has
been erroneously assigned to one of the Elizabeths. Make any sense? Doris
Lane

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