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From: "Jim Lewis" <>
Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] RESPECT for one and all!!
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:06:11 -0500


Mike

Just out of curiosity, can you think of anything the US has ever done right?

Jim Lewis

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Date: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] RESPECT for one and all!!


>I am not for hate, nor blindly following any leader including ours. I even
>boycott giving money to my local United Way because they give money to the
>Boy Scouts who discriminate. I have been a regular blood donor for a long
>time. I didn't need a tragedy to start giving blood. I have served my
country
>both in the military and currently in civilian life. I never doubted any
ones
>patriotism who disagreed with my views or questioned the country's
decisions,
>even in time of crisis. I believe if the United States is against
terrorism,
>we should stop training and supporting them. Personally I do not know if
bin
>Laden is behind these attacks or if any other groups are involved and
neither
>does the list. The attacks were not made by madmen. Nor were they attacks
>against freedom and democracy. I do not mourn on cue on orders by
President
>Dweeb. There will be time for that when all the killing is over. Prayer,
>candlelight vigils, and flag waving are mindless distractions for the real
>problem at hand. However, most Americans can easily understand the us-them
>mentality and think they are doing something by wearing pretty colors.
Saddem
>Hussein said the United States needs to proceed with wisdom. He is giving
us
>good advice. Americans are too arrogant and self centered to understand
what
>is going on in the world and why the WTC and Pentagon were targeted. This
is
>not a war of Islam vs. Christianity. The Arab nations have Christians
living
>in them. Certainly they would be easier targets. It is a simple war of have
>vs. have not nations. That is why after the attack our government did not
>know which one of the many groups out there pulled off the attack. That
>speaks volumes in itself.
>The United States trains terrorist at a place called the School of the
>Americas at Fort Benning, Ga. <A HREF="http://www.soaw.org/">School of the
Americas Watch</A>
>http://www.soaw.org/. If the US citizens want to prevent another attack (I
>think we can all agree on this one.) there are fundamental changes which
must
>be made in our foreign and economic policy, or else there will be more bin
>Ladens. I agree bin Laden, if responsible, must be eliminated, but we also
>must take proactive action. This we can do as citizens united to change our
>government and the world.
>To give you some idea what changes must be made, let's look at why
developing
>nations hate us. Recent names in the news: Pinochet-Chile dictator being
>charged with human rights violations. He was placed in power by the US
>government, who overthrew a democratically elected government to place him
in
>power. Henry Kissinger remarked, "They elected the wrong man." (Wonder why
>they didn't bomb us?) Suharto- recently deposed in Indonesia. Placed in
power
>by a US supported takeover in which 500,000 peasants died. Suharto, with
the
>aid of US weapons, and our knowledge carried on a genocidal war against
East
>Timor. 200,000 people have been killed. The United Nations wanted to help,
>but the kindly folks at team USA blocked the vote, allowing the murder of
>thousands of innocents. This is something the American people could have
and
>should have stopped. I will bet the family tree, not one of you cared or
shed
>a tear for the countless numbers of little brown people who died because of
>our government. Of course not. After all they are not Americans, and those
>are the only lives that only really matter. Now you get a few white lawyers
>at the bottom of a pile of rubble and everyone gets misty eyed. You people
>are phonies and hypocrites. You the problem. ( Not everyone on the list-but
>you know who you are.) So after endless hours of moronic talking heads on
TV
>who spew the official government line, with no real examination of the
>problem, I come on line and someone from Rootsweb gives me a recap of the
>lunacy du jour, because it makes them feel better. It only reminds me what
>fools the American people are for allowing our government to maintain a
>foreign policy which promotes hatred toward our nation. And now we all must
>once again blindly follow or else Mary will question their patriotism. Tsk.
>Tsk. Ever notice how every enemy of the American people is always branded
as
>a "madman"? They use to all be communists, but the government knows we
don't
>fear them anymore, so they are all crazed. Yet, for some reason they are
all
>heroes to the people who live under them? The reason why they are villains
is
>because they will not bow down to US corporations and allow our nation to
>exploit their resources. Member Noreiga and Hussein where good guys when
they
>allowed us to exploit their nations. When the Kurds were outside the UN
>claiming they were gassed, congress moved to stop funding to Iraq. George
>Bush (sr.) killed that bill. Hussein was still our friend. When countries
get
>funny ideas on using their own natural sources for themselves, they become
>enemies of this nation. Notice now that Red China is trading with the US,
>they are now good communists, and their human rights record is no longer an
>issue. What the US must do to prevent this from happening again is to: 1)
>Stop military training of foreign nationals both at home and abroad before
>another chicken comes home to roost. 2) open normal relations with all
>nations. 3) stop influencing foreign elections. It is illegal for foreign
>governments to give money to US candidates, we should do the same. 4)
Promote
>human rights by imposing economic sanctions 5) reexamine our close
>relationship with Israel. (That is what got us to this breaking point in
the
>first place.) 6) Coca-Cola is currently involved in the assassination of
>labor leaders in Columbia. We need to go after them and set an example. 7)
>need to resolve more issues by using the World Court. There are many more,
>these are just starters. America needs to start acting civil instead of
>arrogant. Unfortunately, none of this will happen. What will happen is
there
>will be more bin Ladens (the fall of the WTC will be a recruiting film.) As
>long as we remain arrogant and act as the evil empire this is certain. We
>will win every battle, but lose the war. The war Bush will launch will end
in
>a hollow victory. There is nothing to bomb in Afganistan. They are already
in
>the stone age. Now is the time to concentrate on the issue on how we got to
>this point and correct it. However, most of you will be looking for good
>deals on yellow ribbons, because that is the extent of your understanding.
>Mary believes everyone who disagrees with her is a bin Laden supporter. It
is
>that kind of American arrogance and ignorance that got us here. I prefer to
>keep the list strictly for genealogy. Don't make me write again.
>
>Mike Ledo
>
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