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From: john newman <>
Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Polish ancestors
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 06:15:41 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <410-220045326143221437@earthlink.net>


the problem with Ellis Island is the variations on the spellings. I have Polish ancestors that I have been able to track through the site, but it was difficult. What was the surname? Also, you have to remember that Poland was divided into three pieces: Germany, Austria and Russia all had a share and there was no Poland at that time. Russia tried to get rid of polish culture, so if your ancestors were from that area, they may have russian-ized spellings. For example, Polish has no "v" - the "w" has the "v' sound - a russian variation of the name may have a "v" instead of a "w."

Also, you have to realize that the date of imigration on the census is not usually correct. Even naturalization papers do not seem to have the correct dates. So I would suggest expanding the year of immigration as well as looking at variations on the name.

Also try http://www.polishroots.com/ and look at their newsletter gen dobry for some help.

Sharon Smith <> wrote:
I have a question on the same line--
what year are you speaking of the German empire?
my grandmother came over from POLAND and I can not find her on any
passenger or immigration list--
not on the Ellis island database--
but from the census I know she came over in 1912 when she was 8 years old.
any help as where to look?


> [Original Message]
> From: Alice
> To:
> Date: 5/25/2004 3:26:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] MOCULAK, STANLEY U.S. Navy vs. Census
>
> Possibly I can shed some light on this although I am not an expert...
In
> researching a part of my family that immigrated from what is now Silesia
> Poland and was, when they immigrated, Prussia, or to be a bit more exact
> part of the German empire....I was given a document that had belonged to a
> relative that shows that he was not a citizen of this country and if it
> looked like they came from Germany during world war 1 they had to go to
the
> post office where they lived and register. They were given a document
that
> says they were an "enemy alien"
> (I have his copy) and they must have this document on themselves at all
> times...I would assume from this information that I have that your
relative
> had not become a citizen and would not have been allowed to inlist if he
> gave his birth place ..And perhaps the family did not want anyone to know
> they had not gone through the citizenship process..I would imagine that
you
> could check his military record the way you would anyone else though. I
> would suspect there are others who found themselves in similar
circumstances
> who wanted to serve and I have heard of many who fibbed about there ages..
> I hope this little bit of information may help you to solve the mystery...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:29 PM
> Subject: [NJHUNTER] MOCULAK, STANLEY U.S. Navy vs. Census
>
>
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I am confussed about this & hoping someone can offer some reason as to
> why.
> >
> > I have a distant relation STANLEY J. MOCULAK fom NJ. In the 1920
Census
> he appears in the U.S. Naval Operating Base in Norfolk, Virginia.
> > .............
> > First: he gives his age as 22, instead of 19/20 (born 10/28/1901)
> >
> > Second: states he was born in NJ (was born in Poland)
> >
> > Third: states parents were born in Penn. (they both were born in
> Russia, Republic of Poland - states so in Death Cert. too)
> >
> > Fourth: I do have a picture of him in the Navy that he sent my great
> grandparents. So I do know he was in the Navy & this was confirmed by a
> relation that knows some things about my great grandparents + children.
> >
> > Fifth: his Death Certificates states he was never in the Armed
Service
> (which I know for a fact that he was in the Navy)
> > ..............
> > Didn't the Navy do any checking prior to having men in the service?
> >
> > Is there anyplace I can check this out?
> >
> > I know it would not be a child of his.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions and/or help.
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >
> >
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