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From: "Bellis Genealogy" <>
Subject: RE: [NJHUNTER] BELLIS farm sold to Enoch W. DRAKE in 1897 -- Andr ewBELLIS at Hopewell Meeting House
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:01:05 -0400
In-Reply-To: <008a01c56b04$9097dd00$2202a8c0@David>
David,
No, that Andrew BELLIS was born in 1855, and was a descendant of a related
branch of the BELLIS family. He was the son of John and Amy (RITTENHOUSE)
BELLIS.
The Andrew I was referring to was the son of immigrant Adam BELLIS
(1706-1761). This Andrew (1757-1843) was married to Elizabeth SERVIS (b.
abt 1752) and apparently is buried in Hopewell.
Philip (b. 5-1-1789) is not my Philip. I do show him as married to a Sarah,
but have no marriage date and no maiden name/DOB for Sarah. Do you have
citations for those details, by chance? Do you have any info on Sarah's
PARKE ancestry? This Philip is a first cousin, twice removed, to Andrew (b.
1855) above. He was also the brother of the Elizabeth BELLIS who married
George DUCKWORTH.
Roz BELLIS
Alexandria VA
-----Original Message-----
From: David Sherman [mailto:]
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Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] BELLIS farm sold to Enoch W. DRAKE in 1897 -- Andr
ew BELLIS at Hopewell Meeting House
Roz,
1.) Is your Andrew Bellis married to Lizzie Snyder on Oct 7, 1876?
2.) Is your Phillip Bellis b. 5-01-1789 married To Sarah Parke b. 9-05-1783?
Dave Sherman
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From: "Bellis Genealogy" <>
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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [NJHUNTER] BELLIS farm sold to Enoch W. DRAKE in 1897 -- Andr
ew BELLIS at Hopewell Meeting House
> Dane,
>
> Again very interesting...
>
> The Amanda Jane KIER who married (1862) the BELLIS in Highland Co OH also
> descended from the STOUTs of Hopewell, Hunterdon Co NJ: Rebecca STOUT who
> married Ralph DRAKE.
>
> I'm only now beginning to become educated on the Dunker (...and Quaker?)
> movement from NJ to VA/PA...and then to KY which is where my central
> interest lies in terms of busting my genealogical brick walls. Thus far
> my
> research has been focusing primarily on KY/NJ/PA Census and Land
> acquisition
> records in trying to figure all this out--not only of my direct ancestors
> but their neighbors and close associates as well. Only recently have I
> been
> paying attention to religious history/affiliation mainly out of necessity
> due to ambiguities and gaps in the Census & Land data. For about two
> years
> I have been uncovering clues which could suggest my Philip BELLIS's "as
> yet"
> identified parents may have been associated with either DUNKERs or
> QUAKERs...or BAPTISTs.
>
> If Andrew BELLIS was a DUNKER or QUAKER would be a significant piece of
> data.
>
> Thank you again!
>
> Roz BELLIS
> Alexandria VA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dane Coefer [mailto:]
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 5:58 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [NJHUNTER] BELLIS farm sold to Enoch W. DRAKE in 1897 -- Andr
> ew BELLIS at Hopewell Meeting House
>
> Good question!
>
> The town of Hopewell was called "Hopewell Meeting" in several publications
> of the early 1800s ("A Gazetteer of the State of New Jersey," 1834 was
> one.)
> The reference, I believe, is to the Baptist Meetings of the original
> settlers. Originally they were held in individual homes. My Amwell
> ancestors
> (MANNERS) would travel over the mountain to attend meetings at their STOUT
> cousins' homes in Hopewell in the early 1700s.
>
> The 1873 Atlas of Hunterdon might help you with William. It listed
> property
> owners. That depends, however, on how much lead time they had for
> corrections--Gideon Quick died in 1872 (his wife Clara died in 1873).
> Gideon
> lived in or near Reaville.
>
> Dane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bellis Genealogy [mailto:]
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 2:30 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [NJHUNTER] BELLIS farm sold to Enoch W. DRAKE in 1897 --
> Andrew
> BELLIS at Hopewell Meeting House
>
> Dane,
>
> Thank you for all this info. What I need to do get the "Adam BELLIS
> homestead" deed history, plus the deed history on immigrant Adam's brother
> William's land referred to in LEQUEAR's "Traditions...": "Adam, the
> father, had a brother William who settled where Gideon Quick now lives..."
> and map out this area.
>
> But something new has now popped up. Lequear's "Traditions" mentions that
> Adam's son Andrew moved to the Hopewell meeting house. Was this a Quaker
> meeting house?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Roz BELLIS
> Alexandria VA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dane Coefer [mailto:]
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 2:45 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [NJHUNTER] BELLIS farm sold to Enoch W. DRAKE in 1897
>
> Roz,
>
> Hopewell Borough would be those areas included within the city limits. The
> Township of the same name also includes rural land that is not within
> those
> limits.
>
> This Bellis farm would likely have originally belonged to Andrew Bellis or
> one of his descendants. Lequear's "Traditions of Hunterdon" has "Shortly
> after William was born, his father Adam, built a new house, still known as
> the old Bellis homestead, and moved to it. He had five children: William,
> who remained on the homestead till his death, in 1826; Peter, who went to
> Kentucky; John, who lived on a part of the place; Andrew, who moved to
> Hopewell meeting house; and Adam, who died near Cherryville."
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dane97520/Bellis.html
>
> Dane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bellis Genealogy [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:21 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [NJHUNTER] BELLIS farm sold to Enoch W. DRAKE in 1897
>
> Dane,
>
> This is very interesting, however, I'm still confused insofar as the
> meaning
> of "north of the borough" and "North District Hopewell Twp". If you are
> saying that you think the referenced "BELLIS farm" was probably located in
> what is today Mercer Co NJ, then I am ready to jump for joy...but I won't
> start jumping until I've actually reviewed the deed history.
>
> Here's "the rest of the story." According to online databases, which I
> presume at this point to be correct, "Enoch W. DRAKE was a descendant of
> Thomas and Dorothy (VanKIRK) DRAKE." I know, through correspondence with
> a
> descendant, that George BELLIS (b. 1805 in Highland Co OH) had a son who
> married Arminda Jane KIER, also a descendant of Thomas and Dorothy
> (VanKIRK)
> DRAKE. BELLIS and KIER married in Highland Co OH in 1862. The question
> is:
> who was the father of George BELLIS.
>
> All signs point to George being a descendant of the BELLESFELTs of Selters
> (Nordhofen) Germany who immigrated to the Hunterdon Co NJ area circa
> 1730/40, but the question is, which branch. He probably doesn't belong to
> immigrant Adam BELLIS(felt), the original owner of the "BELLIS Homestead"
> located along KUHL Road, since most of Adam's descendants have been
> accounted for and I can't fit in "George from OHIO". If Enoch W. DRAKE
> bought a different piece of BELLIS property, located not too far away from
> Adam and perhaps owned by Adam's brother, then the scent continues...
>
> Thanks for your reply!
>
> Roz BELLIS
> Alexandria VA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dane Coefer [mailto:]
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 6:39 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [NJHUNTER] BELLIS farm sold to Enoch W. DRAKE in 1897
>
> This Bellis farm was likely in Mercer County in Hopewell Twp. north of the
> Borough boundaries. On the 1880 Census Joseph M. Phillips resided in the
> "North Dist. Hopewell Township." Enoch W. Drake likely bought the property
> as an investment and never lived on it. He died in 1905 at his home of 15
> years on Broad St. Hopewell.
>
> Dane Coefer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bellis Genealogy [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:47 PM
> To:
> Subject: [NJHUNTER] BELLIS farm sold to Enoch W. DRAKE in 1897
>
> Was hoping someone might know, off the top of their heads, what "Bellis
> farm" is being referred to in the following item. This was reported in
> the
> November 16, 1897 Trenton Evening Times, under the subheading "HOPEWELL":
>
> "At the sale of the real estate of Joseph M. PHILLIPS, deceased, on
> Saturday, the harness property was sold to J.C. HARRISON and the adjoining
> lot, now occupied by Samuel CARVER to John TITUS, and the house and lot in
> East Hopewell, known as the BUCKLEY property, was sold to Samuel CARVER,
> and
> the farm north of the borough, known as the BELLIS farm, to Enoch W.
> DRAKE.
> Fair prices were obtained for all."
>
> I'm trying to ascertain if this farm might be the "BELLIS homestead"
> located
> along KUHL Road near the Copper Hill/Reaville area or is a different
> Bellis
> property.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roz BELLIS
> Alexandria VA
>
>
>
>
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