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From: Randy Fonner <>
Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Fonner/Fonger/Hunt family
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:34:04 -0600
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I believe I have a source for Elzabeth Fonner and Daniel Hunt marriage.

I will have to check and get back to you.

I am unsure why it is not listed in the notes on my website.

Please remember that any possible connection between Fonger and Fonner is
pure speculation at this time. I have not had a chance to try and
look deeper into it.
Seeemed like they were in the same area of NJ about same time and
many similar names.

Stay in touch and good luck.


At 08:04 PM 3/8/2006, you wrote:
>Interesting stuff! I haven't been able to find anything on
>Christian Fonner other than her will (including what her maiden name
>may have been); and nothing at all on her husband, William
>Fonner. I haven't had time to follow all the links you sent -- does
>anything you have refer to this family?
>
>You're the first person I have found who is researching this family...
>
>One more question: did Elizabeth Fonner marry Daniel Hunt in
>1774? I'm trying to track down an alleged marriage record of a
>Daniel Hunt to "Elesebet" ___ on 4 Dec. 1774. This is from
>unsourced LDS records, alleged to be of Somerset Co. NJ, but I'm yet
>to find the original record it came from.
>
>I'll keep looking in to what you sent!
>
>cheers,
>
>Gordon
>
>Randy Fonner wrote:
>
>>Below are some notes I have about what would appear to be several
>>Elizabeth Fonner's.
>>
>>One apparently married a George Taylor, another (or same one)
>>married Daniel Hunt.
>>
>>I have no other info on Daniel Hunt and very little on Elizabeth
>>Fonner, except what is on my Fonner
>>family history rootsweb website, but I too would love to learn more.
>>
>>An Elizabeth Founer married George Taylor 3-10-1788 in Pompton
>>Plains, Morris, NJ
>>
>>In the records of the Lebanon Reformed Church, there is a record of
>>a Fonner baptism that is too difficult to read. The baptism is for
>>Elizabeth Fonner on July 28, 1791 - daughter of Abraham [?!] and Mary.
>>
>>In the vital records of Readington, there is a record of an
>>Elizabeth Fonner who died on December 22, 1857 age 62 of
>>consumption. She was listed as being the daughter of Oliver and
>>Elizabeth. She was born circa 1795.
>>
>>For those interested in pure speculation.............and a
>>different Hunt marriage
>>FONGER FAMILY CONNECTIONS
>>
>>F1. UNKNOWN FONGER1 the father of this family is unknown. He had at
>>least two sons who settled in Knowlton Township in what was then
>>Sussex County, New Jersey during the late eighteenth century. The
>>area where his sons settled is now in the vicinity of Hainesburg,
>>Knowlton Township, Warren County, New Jersey. There were at least
>>two other Fongers living in Sussex County in the late eighteenth
>>century. The first was William Fonger, who married Polly Hunt on 14
>>March 1798. She was the daugther of Ralph Hunt, who was known as
>>"Honet Ralph." The second was George Fonger, who married Elizabeth
>>Low on 8 November 1800 in Sussex County (Reuther n.d.).
>>
>>The surname Fonger has several different spellings. The
>>nineteenth-century historian, James P. Snell (Snell 1881:601), in
>>his history of Warren County gives the surname as Funger. Randy
>>Fonner in his web site
>><http://homepages.rootsweb.com/%7Erefonner/index2.htm>Fonner Family
>>History speculates that "maybe" the name Fonger was later changed
>>to Fonner by some families. This was part of the anglicization of
>>German immigrants. Many German families changed their surname
>>spelling after they had been in the American colonies for a
>>generation or so. For instance, the Titman family of Warren and
>>Sussex Counties were actually descendants of Ludwig Dittman. The
>>Fonger/Funger/Fonner connection is a clue for family researchers to
>>keep in mind while searching through records.
>>
>><http://www.charm.net/%7Eedrtjd/readgen/index.htm>Return to Main
>><http://www.charm.net/%7Eedrtjd/readgen/F1fam.htm#CHILDREN>Children
>>of Unknown Fonger
>><http://www.charm.net/%7Eedrtjd/readgen/F1fam.htm#REFERENCES>References
>><http://www.charm.net/%7Eedrtjd/readgen/a.htm>Surname Index
>>
>>
>>CHILDREN OF UNKNOWN FONGER:
>>F2. (i.) PHILIP FONGER, Sr.2, was born unknown and died by 6
>>September 1808 probably in Knowlton Township, Sussex (now Warren)
>>County, New Jersey. There are no Fongers listed in the 1773-1774 or
>>1774 rateables list for Sussex County. The Fongers either lived in
>>the County before 1774 but did not own land; or they did not settle
>>in the county until after 1774 (Stryker-Rodda 1972). Philip married
>>Unknown. She is not mentioned in his will, which was written on 12
>>March 1798. She probably died before 1798. The will was written in
>>1798, but not admitted for probate in the Sussex County Surrogate
>>Court until 6 September 1808. In the will Philip named five
>>children: son Philip Fonger, Jr. and daughters Jane, Sarah, Charity
>>and Elizabeth Fonger. He appointed his brother John Fonger as his
>>executor. Garret Albertson and Jacob Weltz were the witnesses to
>>the will (Sussex County Surrogate Court Records, Wills 1167S).
>>Children of Philip Fonger, Sr.
>>F4. (i.)
>><http://www.charm.net/%7Eedrtjd/readgen/M1fam.htm#PHILIP%20FONGER,%20JR.>PHILIP
>>FONGER, Jr.3, was born and died unknown. He married (M2.)
>><http://www.charm.net/%7Eedrtjd/readgen/M1fam.htm#PRUDENCE%20MATTHEWS>Prudence
>>Matthews2, (Unknown Matthews1) the sister of John Matthews. John
>>married Philip's sister, Elizabeth Fonger (Kern 1938; Sussex County
>>Surrogate Court Records, Wills 1167S). Prudence was born in 1758
>>and died 2 January 1818 in the vicinity of the village of Sodom
>>(now Hainesburg), Knowlton Township, Sussex (now Warren) County,
>>New Jersey (Kern 1938). Philip Fonger was her second husband. A
>>clue to the location of the Fonger farm is contained in the works
>>of Armstrong (1979) and Snell (1881). Armstrong (1979:228) writes
>>that Gershom Bartow traded for the farm of John Walker at
>>Hainesburg. He goes on to say that "The Walker farm was the old
>>farm of Philip Fonger and lies along Yards Creek." As Prudence
>>Fonger was married to Sir Isaac Walker before her marriage to
>>Philip Fonger, it is possible that John Walker was her son or
>>grandson and that he had the farm through his mother's marriage to
>>Philip Fonger. Snell (1881:624) picks up the thread of ownership
>>for the old Fonger farm. He states that "The farm now owned by
>>Benjamin Bartow, near the village of Hainesburg, was originally
>>owned by a man named Funger, a German, as the name readily implies."
>> F5. (ii.) JANE FONGER3, was born and died unknown (Sussex
>> County Surrogate Court Records, Wills 1167S).
>>F6. (iii.) SARAH FONGER3, was born and died unknown (Sussex County
>>Surrogate Court Records, Wills 1167S).
>>F7. (iv.) CHARITY FONGER3, was born and died unknown (Sussex County
>>Surrogate Court Records, Wills 1167S).
>>
>>F8. (v.)
>><http://www.charm.net/%7Eedrtjd/readgen/M3fam.htm#ELIZABETH%20FONGER>ELIZABETH
>>FONGER3, was born unknown and died circa 1810 in the vicinity of
>>Hainesburg, Knowlton Township, Sussex (now Warren County), New
>>Jersey. She married (M3.)
>><http://www.charm.net/%7Eedrtjd/readgen/M3fam.htm#JOHN%20MATTHEWS>John
>>Matthews2 (Unknown Matthews1). He died in circa 1799 in the
>>vicinity of Hainesburg, Knowlton Township, Sussex (now Warren
>>County), New Jersey. His sister Prudence Matthews married
>>Elizabeth's brother Philip Fonger, Jr. (Kern 1938; Sussex County
>>Surrogate Court Records, Wills 1167S).
>>F3. (ii.) JOHN FONGER2, was born unknown and died after 12 March
>>1798. He is named as the executor of his brother Philip's estate.
>>Philip's will was dated 12 March 1798 and was admitted to probate
>>on 6 September 1808 (Sussex County Surrogate Court Records, Wills
>>1167S). A John Fonger was a member of the church in Stillwater,
>>Sussex County, New Jersey. He appears on the list of parents whose
>>children were baptized between 1773 and 1800. This church was
>>originally built by 1771 and stood in the bounds of the cemetery
>>currently in Stillwater. At first it was used by both German
>>Lutherns and German Calvinists. By 1816, the Dutch Reformed/German
>>Calvinists constituted the majority of the congregation. They
>>applied to the Presbytery of New Brunswick to come under the care
>>of the Presbyterian church. From that date forward, the church has
>>been a Presbyterian church and is known as Stillwater Presbyterian
>>Church (Snell 1880:381).
>>
>><http://www.charm.net/%7Eedrtjd/readgen/F1fam.htm#Top>Go to Top of Page
>><http://www.charm.net/%7Eedrtjd/readgen/a-c.htm>Surname Index
>>
>>REFERENCES
>>
>>PRIMARY
>>
>>New Jersey State Archives, Trenton New Jersey (NJSA)
>>Sussex County, Surrogate Court Records
>>File 1164S.
>>SECONDARY
>>
>>Armstrong, William C.
>>1979 Pioneer Families of Northwestern New Jersey. Hunterdon House,
>>Lambertville, N.J.
>>
>>Kern, William MacKellar
>>1938 Kern and Ogden ancestors. Also allied families of Lanterman,
>>Read, Crisman, etc. Manuscript
>>on file, New York City Public Library.
>>
>>Snell, James P. (Compiler)
>>1881 History of Sussex and Warren Counties, New Jersey, With
>>Illustrations and Biographical
>>Sketches of its Prominent Men and Pioneers. Howard E. Case, Sussex.
>>Everts and Peck, Philadelphia.
>>
>>Stryker-Rodda, Kenn
>>1972 Revolutionary Census of New Jersey: An Index Based on
>>Rateables of the Inhabitants of
>>New Jersey During the Period of the American Revolution.
>>Polyanthos, Cottonport, LA.
>>WEB SITES
>>
>>Fonner, Randy
>>n.d. <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/%7Erefonner/index2.htm>Fonner
>>Family History see Surname Index for Unattached Fonners.
>>
>>Reuther, Jan
>>n.d. <http://www.raub-and-more.com/default.html>My Raub (and more)
>>Ancestry, see Marriages.
>>
>>At 11:43 AM 3/4/2006, you wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone know anything further about the Fonner family,
>>>specifically the family of Christian Fonner (widow of William)
>>>whose will was dated 14 Sep 1798 (Readington Twp, Hunterdon Co.
>>>NJ)? Her will mentions a daughter Elizabeth who m. Daniel Hunt,
>>>and I suspect this might be a direct line for me.
>>>
>>>Any help appreciated.
>>>
>>>cheers,
>>>
>>>Gordon Bonnet
>>>Trumansburg NY
>>>
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