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From: "Bill Pfeifer" <>
Subject: Re: [BKLYN] NYBROOKLYN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 116
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:56:03 -0400
References: <mailman.565.1242370850.29993.nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com><201389.58576.qm@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


I checked out www.newspaperarchive.com and found only one newspaper in
Brooklyn, the Illustrated Speedway News from 1964-65. I was hoping for more.
Did I miss something?

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From: "Mary Tucker" <>
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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [BKLYN] NYBROOKLYN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 116


Hi Everyone!

I www.newspaperarchive.com for brooklyn deaths and other items. Also the
cathcemeteries-brooklyn newyork-just google it for the site-Mary





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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Looking For Favorite Research Sites (Joy Rich)
2. Relation on the 1900 census ()
3. Re: Relation on the 1900 census ()
4. Relation on the 1900 census ()
5. Re: Relation on the 1900 census ()
6. Re: 19th century NYC Birth Certificates (the cohens)
7. Re: Relation on the 1900 census (the cohens)
8. Re: Relation on the 1900 census ()
9. Re: 19th century NYC Birth Certificates ()


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 23:57:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joy Rich <>
Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Looking For Favorite Research Sites
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Phil, why not refer people to our list administrator's Brooklyn website?

Joy

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Hayes Philip L <> wrote:

From: Hayes Philip L <>
Subject: [BKLYN] Looking For Favorite Research Sites
To: ,
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 12:22 AM

Hi all

In addition to researching my own family tree in Brooklyn, I am also?
the editor of the Sirius Genealogy 2.0 Blog (http://www.siriusgenealogy.com
).? We recently added a genealogy web directory.? I am try to collect?
as many useful research resources as I can for Brooklyn, so I can add?
them to the Research Section of the web directory.? So far, my?
favorites include:

Brooklyn Daily Eagle Online
http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org

New York City Vital Records Index At The Italian Gen. Group
http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm

The New York Times Archives
http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/nytarchive.html

The Green-Wood Cemetery
http://www.green-wood.com/

Brooklyn Geneaology Information Page
http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/

I'd like to hear what yours are.? Where do you go online to research?
relatives in Brooklyn?

Thanks.

Phil Hayes
Monroe, CT



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 03:59:34 EDT
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Subject: [BKLYN] Relation on the 1900 census
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I find gggrandmother Agnes Quinn on the 1900 census listed in the
"Relation" column as Head of the family.
Above the word Head are the following numbers and letters "1C3R". She is
listed with her daughter and 3 grandchildren. Any idea what 1C3R means??

Thanks.


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 06:16:23 EDT
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First cousin three times removed

I find gggrandmother Agnes Quinn on the 1900 census listed in the
"Relation" column as Head of the family.
Above the word Head are the following numbers and letters "1C3R". She is
listed with her daughter and 3 grandchildren. Any idea what 1C3R means??

Thanks.

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:02:37 EDT
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A couple of people responded and said the "1C3R" probably means "1st
cousin, thrice removed". I saw that also when I googled it but in what
context
would that apply on the census?


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:08:05 EDT
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Where did you note the rederfence to 1C3R ?? D nt thing it
was oon a census records. It merely denotes the relatinship f one
person to another on a family tree.

IA couple of people responded and said the "1C3R" probably means "1st
cousin, thrice removed". I saw that also when I googled it but in what
context
would that apply on the census?

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:17:38 -0700
From: the cohens <>
Subject: Re: [BKLYN] 19th century NYC Birth Certificates
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So, when did mother's maiden name start getting recorded? That's the
primary reason we want birth certificates.

I ask because, for one circa 1886 birth, we don't know the father's
name, it may have been a legitimate birth, or an illegitimate one.
We just know the mother's maiden name, and the child's name after
adoption by the mother's aunt.

On 5/13/09, <> wrote:
> As a follow up:
>
> Approximately 25% of all births prior to 1910 were not reported to the
> city. Births often took place at home and the doctor or midwife sometimes
> failed to report the event to the appropriate civil office. If the search
> results are negative, you will receive a "not found" notice.
>


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:54:39 -0700
From: the cohens <>
Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Relation on the 1900 census
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I wonder if someone was tallying and it just meant 1 child, 3 (other)
relatives?? I have seen those kind of codes and ignored them. They
could also just be some kind of notes to themselves that the census
takers made to keep track of their progress with the various
households.

On 5/14/09, <> wrote:
>....
> Above the word Head are the following numbers and letters "1C3R". She is
> listed with her daughter and 3 grandchildren. Any idea what 1C3R means??p


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 01:56:50 EDT
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It is in the 4th column on the 1900 census. It is the column marked
"Relation". It is the census for Agnes Quinn, aged 63 living with her
daughter
Mary O'Donnell and her 3 grandchildren, Briant, William and Agnes.
It is very clearly written over the word "Head".

When the responses came back as first cousin, thrice removed, I went back
and took a look at the names of the others on that page. I don't recognize
the names as relations (although that doesn't meant that they aren't).

There are several other folks on that page that have other numerical signs
over their line.

Then I thought it was something to do with 1 head - Agnes and 3 "c"hildren
but I think that's a stretch.

I'm baffled.
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 02:26:12 EDT
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You might want to try and look at Death Certificates also.

The earliest one I have is for June 1907 and it lists my ggrandfather's
mother's maiden name as Kane. He died in Bklyn. That is the ONLY place I
have
ever found the name. I can't even find them on any census.

If there is a site that shows blank certificates for birth/death over the
years I don't know it.








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