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From: Janders 45 <>
Subject: [PACE] Frederick of Wales group - Preliminary results 113987
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:42:33 -0500
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This makes our fifth sample from the Frederick of Wales group, so let me outline the situation for those who don't follow this group closely. Frederick had three sons, all of whom moved to Clarke Co, AL, between 1809 and 1822. These sons were, by age:

1. William
2. John
3. Dempsey

For several years, we have had samples from 3 closely related donors (father, son, uncle), all of whom descend from one son of John. About a year ago, we obtained results from a donor who descends from a second son of John. The results reported by Roy yesterday are from a donor who descends from William, the brother of John and the eldest son of Frederick.

These results are important in that they provide additional evidence that allows us to choose between conflicting theories about this group:

1. Descent from Frederick Pace who immigrated to the colonies not long before the Revolution. This version is supported by several old sources, most notably by the biography of Dr. Jesse M. Pace of Dallas.

2. Descent from John (the Tory) Pace m. Sarah and, through him, back to Richard of Jamestown. This version originated in the speculations of Bruce Howard in his book. To make this version work, Mr. Howard had to assume that the Pace brothers who moved to Clarke Co had lied about who their father was.

Since the five samples match each other and do not match descendents of John the Tory nor any other Pace group, I think that we can safely conclude that Mr. Howard's theory has been conclusively disproved.

Joe Anderson



> From: > To: > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:17:48 -0500> Subject: [PACE] Preliminary results 113987> > Results 1-12 are in and show a perfect match for the modal in the Wales> group. Here is the lineage:> > > > 1. Donor> > 2. Father> > 3. Grandfather> William Earle Pace> born August 1875> > 4. John J. Pace> born 1840 in Clarke Co, AL> > 5. Dempsey P. Pace> born 1810 in Wilkinson Co, GA> > 6. William Pace> born abt 1757> died June 1826 in Clarke Co, AL> > > > More proof that this is a unique group. The rest of the results should be in> soon.> > > > I have entered these results in the Wales chart and on the Donors page.> > > > Roy Johnson
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