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From: Rebecca Christensen <>
Subject: Re: [PACE] Frederick of Wales group - Preliminary results 113987
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:14:26 -0700 (PDT)
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I am in total agreement with Joe on his analysis of the DNA results and their interpretation that this group of Paces are not related in any way to John Pace (the Tory) who married Sarah.

With results from the lines of two sons of Frederick Pace, we know the DNA results of Frederick Pace himself through the process known as triangulation. There is no doubt remaining that Frederick Pace was not related to John Pace (the Tory). Hopefully, we can put that speculation to rest now.

Rebecca Christensen

Janders 45 <> wrote:
This makes our fifth sample from the Frederick of Wales group, so let me outline the situation for those who don't follow this group closely. Frederick had three sons, all of whom moved to Clarke Co, AL, between 1809 and 1822. These sons were, by age:

1. William
2. John
3. Dempsey

For several years, we have had samples from 3 closely related donors (father, son, uncle), all of whom descend from one son of John. About a year ago, we obtained results from a donor who descends from a second son of John. The results reported by Roy yesterday are from a donor who descends from William, the brother of John and the eldest son of Frederick.

These results are important in that they provide additional evidence that allows us to choose between conflicting theories about this group:

1. Descent from Frederick Pace who immigrated to the colonies not long before the Revolution. This version is supported by several old sources, most notably by the biography of Dr. Jesse M. Pace of Dallas.

2. Descent from John (the Tory) Pace m. Sarah and, through him, back to Richard of Jamestown. This version originated in the speculations of Bruce Howard in his book. To make this version work, Mr. Howard had to assume that the Pace brothers who moved to Clarke Co had lied about who their father was.

Since the five samples match each other and do not match descendents of John the Tory nor any other Pace group, I think that we can safely conclude that Mr. Howard's theory has been conclusively disproved.

Joe Anderson

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