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From: Marianne Pyeatt <>
Subject: Re: [PIATT] James J And Ellen (Barney) Piatt
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:59:31 -0800 (PST)


David - Who were James parents/grandparents? Thanks, Marianne

On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 11:06:10 -0400, wrote:

> James J And Ellen (Barney) Piatt Lowdan/Loudad
> How old was Ellen Barney? If our Ellen is the one in the 1850 census she
would have
> been 4 or 5 years younger then James, and would have been the right age
the attract a
> young James. If James was 20 and Ellen 16 when married then the time
would have right
> in 1870 to have son George 13 (although I have his date as 10/22/1854) A
year here are
> there may be expanded by the date the census was taken.
>
> But this data raises as many question as it gives answers. Ellen's death
certificate
> shows her birth date as Dec 25, 1830. This would make her 4 years older
then James
> and the wrong age for the 1870 census, The census that most closely
matches the family
> as noted by Fred Piatt (my grandfather) a son for George Piatt.
>
> Fred didn't list any sisters of this George so then how is Sarah P in
1870 and Millie 1880.
>
> If the family in 1880 is that of James, he couldn't have been the father
of Carrie.
> It is hard for me to believe the two families living so close could be so
close in names and dates.
>
> John and Sarah (Behee) Barney lived "on the homestead" at Belree Mill
(Behee Mill?) in
> Hanover, Pa. They had "several children," including John C. Barney, b.
1827."
> This also seems to be the John and Sarah Barney on the
> 1850 federal census of
> Huntington,
> Luzerne Co., Pa., p.279:
> Barney, John age 52
> Barney, Sarah age 41
> Barney, Charles age 20
> Barney, Elizabeth age 17
> Barney, Ellen age 11 (1839)
> Barney, Mary age 6
> Barney, John age 3
>
> In 1850 in Luzerne Co, Huntington Twp, page 312, family 2102/2135
> Jonas Hoyt 29 M Farmer
> Sarah Hoyt 25 F
> Adelia Hoyt 2 F
> Sylvivia Hoyt 1 F
> James Piatt 16 M Farmer (1834)
> Oliver Sharps 12 M
>
> On the 1870 Census
> Plymouth Township
> Piatt, James 36 M W Carpenter $100 PA (1834)
> Ellen 30 F W Keepinghouse. PA (1840)
> George E 13 M W PA (1857)
> Robert R 11 M W PA (1859)
> Sarah P 10 F W PA (1860)
> Charles W 5 M W PA (1865)
>
>
> On the 1880 Census
> 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Ward, Plymouth, Luzerne, Pennsylvania
> FHL Film 1255151 National Archives Film T9-1151 Page 424C
> Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> M. C Loudan Self M M W 29 PA
> Ellen Loudan Wife F M W 38 PA (1842)*
> Millie Pyatt Dau F M W 18 PA (1862)
> Chas Pyatt Son M S W 14 PA (1866)
> Ulyssis Pyatt Son M S W 10 PA (1870)(I had 1872)
> Carrie Pyatt Dau F S W 1 PA (1879) **
>
>
> * After James died. She may have taken a few years off of her age
> (and her children's) and married a "younger" man! Shocking for the times.
>
> **If James died in 1972 he couldn't have been the father
>
> Please Help
>
> David C. Piatt
> Shelby Twp. Mich.
>
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