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From: Marian Fox <>
Subject: Re: [ROGERS] NOAH ROGERS<>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:52:47 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <017d01c09775$39bb06e0$4e3d77cc@wbP>


Some more Noah information I downloaded some time ago. It also has a lot
on William.Noah is mention near the end of this LONG post.
Marian Fox

ROGERS
ANCESTRY_____________________________________________________________________
_FAMOUS ROGERS' BIOGRAPHIES *
Sir
John Fitz Roger, "Knight" (1386-1441)* Thomas Rogers of Bradford
(1435-1489) *
John Rogers "The Martyr" (1500-1555) *
Thomas
Rogers of Stratford-on-Avon (1537-1610)* William Rogers of Long Island
(1610-1669) * Noah Rogers I of Branford, Ct. (1646-1725)
* Noah Rogers III of Cornwall Ct. (1732-1810) * Capt
Edward Rogers of Cornwall Ct. (1736-1813) * John Almanza
Rowley
Rogers (1828-1906) * John Raphael Rogers, Inventor
(1856-1934) * Joseph Morgan Rogers, Writer
(1861-1922)
* Vance Rogers, U.S. Government
(1908-1962) ROGERS
ANCESTRY1 ROGERS FAMILY REMEMBERED[INLINE]
_________________________________________________________________[INLINE]
THE HOME OF THOMAS ROGERS (1537-1610) AND HIS GRANDSON WILLIAM
ROGERS(1612-1646)
Our Rogers family lineage starts with Thomas Rogers (1537-1610), whowas
Alderman
of Stratford-on-Avon, England. This is a picture of hishome, still
standing
today. His great grandson, William Rogers, isbelieved to have also lived
in this
home. William immigrated toConnecticut around 1640, and thus began this
line of
Rogers in theColonies. If you are a Rogers, descendant from William, or
perhaps
aRowley, Fuller, Hamlin, Embree, Frisbee, Leete or one of the manyother
families
who married into this line, please click on "ROGERS2ANCESTRY" below. If we
are
related, let me know. ROGERS AANCESTRY1
ROGERS
CESTRY______________________________________________________________________FAMO
US ROGERS' BIOGRAPHIES * Sir
John
Fitz Roger, "Knight" (1386-1441)* Thomas Rogers of Bradford
(1435-1489) * John
Rogers "The Martyr" (1500-1555) * Thomas
Rogers of
Stratford-on-Avon (1537-1610)* William Rogers of Long Island
(1610-1669) * Noah
Rogers I of Branford, Ct. (1646-1725) * Noah Rogers
III
of Cornwall Ct. (1732-1810) * Capt Edward Rogers of
Cornwall Ct. (1736-1813) * John Almanza Rowley Rogers
(1828-1906) * John Raphael Rogers, Inventor
(1856-1934)
* Joseph Morgan Rogers, Writer (1861-1922) *
Vance
Rogers, U.S. Government (1908-1962) ROGERS
ANCESTRYROGERS ANCESTRYSir John Fitz Roger, "Knight" (1386-1441)Sir John
Fitz
Roger, "Knight" (1386-1441)Thomas Rogers of Bradford (1435-1489)Thomas
Rogers of
Bradford (1435-1489)John Rogers "The Martyr" (1500-1555)John Rogers "The
Martyr"
(1500-1555)Thomas Rogers of Stratford-on-Avon (1537-1610)Thomas Rogers of
Stratford-on-Avon (1537-1610)William Rogers of Long Island
(1610-1669)Getting
http://home.att.net/~bryantrogers/William.htmWilliam Rogers (p1 of 10
William
Rogers of Long Island According to records at the Shakespeare
Birthplace, he
lived and mayhave been born in "Harvard House" which was built by Thomas
Rogers,his grandfather in 1595.
William is believed to have come to the Colonies in 1635. There
isconsiderable
dispute over whether or not Thomas Rogers, passenger onthe Mayflower, was
William's father. Thomas died in the first winterafter the Mayflower
arrived.
William came in the barque Phillip inJune 1635. He was voted to be a
freeman on
6 Mar 1649. From The American Genealogist, Vol 10, No
1,
July 1933: With the discovery of William Bradford's
list of
the passengers on the"Mayflower" many genealogical controversies were
stilled
but manyothers were aroused by the governor's brevity and his indefinite
2statements. When, for instance, he wrote that Thomas Rogers
wasaccompanied by
only one son, Joseph Rogers, on the memorable voyage,but that the rest of
Thomas' children came over later, married and had many children, he
excited many
claims that immigrants of the name ofRogers were the unnamed children of
the
Pilgrim father. One of themost persistently advanced of these pretensions
to
"Mayflower" ancestry has been based on an attribution of William Rogers
of
LongIsland as one of the missing children of Thomas Rogers. Largelythrough
the
efforts of the late J. H. Drummond one of the missingchildren has been
identified in John Rogers of Duxbury, Mass., but nosatisfactory proof has
been
advanced for the parentage of William Rogers.
The late Mrs. A. A. Haxtun in her "Signers of the Mavflower Compact"stated
that
"Harwich Records say 'William, son of the first Thomas,settled in
Huntington,
Long Island,' " and that: "From Cape Cod the'record', 'Thomas came in the
Mayflower with son Joseph, otherchildren, including John and William
coming
afterward. In the coursof ten years' experience as Historian of the New
York
Society of Mayflower Descendants the writer has frequently seen claims
based
upon3descent from William Rogers as a son of Thomast Rogers, asserting
thatprobate proceedings, church records, and other material
substantiatedthis
connection, but an extended investigation of all these clues,including
those
offered by Mrs. Haxtun, has resulted in complete failure to locate proper
authorities. In view of this situation, andconsidering the somewhat large
group
of descendants of William Rogers,these notes, which appear to settle the
question of his ancestry, arepresented.
The facts relating to William Rogers' life in this country are
few. Hefirst
appeared at Wethersfield, Conn., where he owned five pieces ofland before
a
general registration in 1640, these plots all adjoiningpieces owned by
Thomas
Wicks (Wickes, Wilkes), to whom he is generallybelieved to have been
related.
Possibly Rogers belonged to the companyof Rev. Richard Denton, as is
sometimes
stated, but he was not in theoriginal group which went from Wethersfield
to
found a settlement atToquams (Rippowams) (Stamford), Conn., in
164I. Denton's
followers toStamford included Thomas Wicks and Jonas Wood, both later
associatedagain with William Rogers. Rogers is not again noticed until
1644,when
he is found at Southampton, Long Island. He was one of the 4earliest
settlers there and was probably there before 1644. Howell says he was
there
in 1642. He had a house on the main street in 1648 which the family
continued to
own for seven generations. He was a freeman at Southampton on March 6,
1649, and
can be found in that townuntil 1655, although he appears to have lived for
a few
years previousto 1649 in Hempstead. After 1655 his son Obadiah Rogers, is
found
occupying the house that William had in Southampton. It is generally
assumed
that William turned his home over to his son Obadiah andremoved to
Huntington
with the remainder of his family. On July 30, 1656, the Matinecock
Sachem
and other Indians deeded to William Rogers, Jonas Wood, and Thomas Wilkes
the
land needed for thesettlement of Huntington, Long Island. This is the last
mention of William Rogers on the records. There is no will nor
settlement of
estate, and nothing to show the date of his death except that"Widow
Rogers"
appears in a deed in 1667. She is mentioned from timeto time in the
records
until her will, made on November 22, 1669, wasproved February, I670. This
will
shows the widow's Christian name tohave been Ann. She has frequently been
suggested as a daughter of Edmund Sherman, but the original source of this
theory is unknown and5the attribution lacks proof and is probably
incorrect, as
will appear. It is possible that the widow Ann Rogers married George
Wood,
afterthe death of William' Rogers, as there is a record of Ralph Hall and
his
wife Mary having been charged with witchcraft in causing the deathof
George
Wood, an infant child of Ann Rogers, called the widow ofGeorge Wood. If
she
married Wood and moved to Setauket, as is asserted, her married life with
him
was probably a very brief one and,after Wood's death, she was generally
known by
her former name ofRogers. Under this name she made her will. The will of
Ann
Rogers of Huntington mentions her children as Obadiah,John, Noah, Hannah
and
Mary. She also refers to her "son Samuel," butprobably Samuel was a
son-in-law,
perhaps Samuel Messenger, to whomAnn Rogers granted land in 1669. Another
son.
Jonathan, is known although not mentioned in his mother's will. Noah
Rogers
calls him brother in a deed in 1699.
The information available about these children is given briefly andthe
order of
birth being uncertain: I. Obadiah2 Rogers, who is called the eldest in his
mother's will. He married Mary , probably sister of William Russell of
Southampton, whose will, made in 1678 and proved in 1682, calls Obadiah
Rogers
a brother. Obadiah Rogers' will was made July 24,1689, and proved June 23,
I692,
mentioning his widow Mary and seven children, one daughterbeing then
deceased.
Obadiah' Rogers continued to live at Southamptonfter his parents had moved
to
Huntington. The town records contain several references to him.
2. Jonathan2 Rogers. Born about 1637. Died in 1707 at Huntington.Married
Rebecca
and had children. Admitted freeman at Huntington, May I2, I664. Served as
rate
gatherer, fence viewer, and overseer aHuntington, and operated a sawmill
and
grist mill at Cold Spring. Heowned a piece of land in common with Samuel
Titus,
sometimes suggesteds a son-in-law of Ann Rogers.
3. John2 Rogers stated in a deposition made September, 1676, that hewas
then
thirty-six years old, hence born in 1640. He was a fence viewer and
overseer at
Huntington and was admitted freeman there Mav7I2, 1664. He removed to
Branford,
Conn., where he died without issue.
4. Noah2 Rogers married April 8, 1673 Elizabeth Taintor. She was bornon 22
June
1655 and died in 1732. He died at Branford, Conn., October8, 1725. In 1699
he
disposed of holdings in Huntington, listing himself "of Branford." He was
made
freeman May 11, I662, and was deputy from Branford in 1704.
5. Samuel2 Rogers
6. Mary2 Rogers
7. Hannah2 Rogers.
In searching for the ancestry of this family of Rogers attention was
attracted
to the town of Stratford-on-Avon. county Warwick, a placeknown by name to
everyone. The available printed records of thatcommunity give entries
which
supply a family closely resembling tRogers group of Long Island.
8On February 7, I6I2/13, William Rogers, son of Thomas Rogers, was
baptized.
On February 2, 1630/1, William Rogers married Anna Hale. OnMarch 7,
I63I/2, was
baptized Anna, daughter of William Rogers. OSeptember 29 1633, was
baptized a
son Obadiah and on September 4, 1636, a son Jonathan, both sons of William
Rogers.
When Jonas Wood, Thomas Wickes (Wilkes) and William negotiated the"Eastern
purchase" in 1656 they paid "2 coates, fore shertes, sevenquarts of licker
and
aleven ounces of powther."The purchase included all the land from Cow
Harbor
Brook (the brook atthe head of Northport Harbor which was the eastern
boundary
of theHuntington land purchase of 1653) east to the Nissequogue River,
southto
Old Country Road and north to Long Island Sound.
Just how this beautiful piece of property was apportioned among ththree
men may
appear in the early town files but is not mentioned inthe published
records.
A small booklet published by the Huntington Historical Society
which9describes a
walking tour around the part of the present park originally known as the
"TOWN
SPOT" states the following: "The ARSENAL (1747-8) The house stands on a
sub-divided lot whichoriginally formed the the north corner of the home
lot of
WilliamRogers (1) who lived here from 1653 to 1664 in a house which stood
afew
feet away from what is now 427 Park Avenue.
On the southwest corner of Park and So. Woodhull was the tannery (ca1740).
"This property was originally the homelot of Noah Rogers (2), who lived
here
from 1653 until 1669. He sold it to Thomas Wickes Jr. whosefamily used it
as a
pasture." (This transaction was witnessed by oneJoseph Rogers,)
Possibly the property listed below described the farm where William and
Ann
lived later. In Volume I of the Huntington Town Records p, 139is the
following
entry: /Deed Ann nogers to Samuel Messenger/ 1669 Aug9/ Ann Rogers sells
land
.... "all my Rite Title I intrust in and toWilliam Rogers (p10my
accomodation
situate & Being in Huntington as housing, barn,uthousing, orchard, garden,
trees
home lot frame for a house alreadyhewn .... bounded by lot of Thomas Wicks
on ye
north side, Noah Rogerson ye south side, Thomas Jones on ye west side and
ye
Rear ye woods inCommonadge .... (possibly the Town Spot) ..... also ye
meadow on
yeSouth Side of ye Island .... (She kept 4 acers north of the tittle Neck
"near
Cow Harbor.")
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