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From: "Charles A. Wyly" <>
Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re:Trails (repost)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:23:32 -0500


Hi,
I have the exact site location by natural landmarks, where Evan Edwards
or Evan Eddards was killed and scalpped in the Cumberland Gap , 1796, in
the presence of his wife Jemima Cleveland Wyly Edwards and her two Wyly
children, James Rutherford Wyly and Elizabeth Wyly. Also present were
Edwards children and John Hall, who lived with his first wife until she
died and then married Elizabeth Wyly. Elizabeth had grabbed two Edwards
Children and pulled them through a cane break to escape the indians.
Young James R. jumped over the bank into a stream near a bluff on the
other side, .A hunting party rescued them. WHO???

Later, in court testimony in East Faliciana Parrish, Clinton , La. Ga.
Militia General Wyly, Gen. Ben Cleveland (Col. Ben's grandson), and
"Devil John" Cleveland testified that Col. Ben had first given Jemima
and family South Carolina land, but he soon gave her more land between
Amite, Miss. and Clinton, La. She remarried a distant cousin Daniel
Cleveland
and died and Daniel was claiming all the land, not considerring the
Cleveland, Edwards Children. Court info in Clinton is in several books,
French style- one scribe doing Questions and another doing answers in a
different book. The land was returned to Col. Ben's estate.

QUESTION; Who were the other children involved without parents in
Cumberland Gap attack? Were they orphans? Was Indentured Servant custody
still in existence in 1796??

One of my ancestors John Hatchett was a 12 year oldn on an orphan ship
near Jamestown and was sold to a John Farley Actually , his dad was in
British Debters Prison and the young son enterred appx. 30 years ahead of
the father. His family included a mayor of Shrevesburg, Eng.

QUESTION; How many orphan ships came to America in 1600's??? Did the
practice continue into the 1700's ? One source said there were 5 or
more. Must be on someone's tree.

John Hatchett tried to buy his freedom when about 19 and Mr. Farley
refused. He then , with Jane Farley, asked her dad for her hand in
marriage., which did not make Mr. Farley a happy camper, so they eloped,

SO , I have both Hatchett and Farley lineage. Dr. W.P. Hatchett and
brother came to Texas before 1840 and settled in Gonzales and then the
Bosque River valley, organizing 17 churches., Doctoring, and died in
Selden, Texas after 1900. They came from Shipley ( Pine Mountain) Ga. to
Texas on horsebck , then he returned to Ga. to marry Angelina Isabella
Stevens, my great Great Grandmother and returned to Texas and made 2
other trips back to Ga. They and Rev. B.T. Stevens and his mother
Elizabeth Tuggle(stine in Belgium 4 centuries earlier- see history of
Tarrant- Tuggle- Herndon families of Bradford. England who sold military
uniforms worldwide. Some came to Jamestown. ) are buried in Selden
Cemetery, Duffau Creek. Texas.

Sorry I took so long, but through 2 degrees I had never heard of Orphan
ships or how foster parenting functioned in U.S. in 1790's.

Take care,
Charles A. Wyly

On Wed, 02 May 2001 16:21:59 -0400 Jim Blease <> writes:
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> > 5/1/01 1:30pm EDT
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> > This appeared on this list 3 Feb 2001 as [Fwd: trails to early KY]
> (and, it
> > appears also, 23 Sept 99) and I intended to respond when I could
> check out
> > some resources, then time just slipped away!.
> >
> > >Subject: [SouthernTrails] Trails
> > >
> > >An earlier posting by Mary Miller who is no longer active on the
> list.
> > >Thought it might be of interest so some of the new people.
> > >
>
>
> Some time in the 1950's or 60's I read a book about the first whites
> who
> went into what became Kentucky and Ohio and the first two sentences
> have
> stayed with me:
>
> "To go there was to slip one's finger from the handclasp of mankind.
> To
> go there was to go lonely."
>
> Can remember neither the author nor the title. Does it sound
> familiar
> to anyone??
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