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From: "Charles A. Wyly" <>
Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things...
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:27:27 -0500


Hi,
there were supporters of the Union in several Confederate states, such
as the Texas German immigrants (Some of them) , those in Arkansas, and
Missouri. In Arkansas, some lived in caves to avoid the draft. Some were
forced to serve in the Partisan Rangers and some in the Union Army. Jesse
Woodson James and The Quantrills and Youngers were part of the Rebel
Army who fought abuses of the Partisan Rangers and then the Carpetbaggers
passed a new Missouri Constitution which said anyone who had served in
the Confederate Army could not vote, hold office or pastor a church or
serve as a Deacon. Jesse James's dad was a Baptist Minister. Jesse did
not smoke, chew, or drink and refused to work with drunks, as they would
"Get you killed" . Wonder how how the man buried face down in Jesse's
"Grave" in Missouri got badly stained teeth from years of chewing and
dipping tobacco??? Recent DNA tests only prove if one is descended from
that corpse without positive proof by DNA of living known survivors of
Jesse.

Now I know why so many from Missouri such as my Great Grandad Moxley
and the Flemings, Ogans,Ponsealots, and many more, including the
families of Gov. Augustus King moved to Stephenville- Erath County.
Texas. many came by Coverred Wagon. Remember, these people had all been
pardoned by Abraham Lincoln, but that meant nothing to the Kansas
Jayhawkers and other Union supporters , who were invited to come to
Missouri and be part of the Carpetbag rule. .

The Partisan- (Partizan) Rangers were the Confederate Home Front Guard-
in Texas they were Partizan Rangers. Some tried to protect the home front
from Roving Indians and Comancheros and did an excellent job-and tried
to stop the abuse of power - others used it in Texas as an excuse to
kill and plunder German and isolated homes and blame it on Indians or
"German Outlaw Sympathisers" and hang or shoot captives- see info on the
Old Comfort, Texas School Ground, for names of Texas German Immigrants
massacred - sometimes called the Battle of Neuces by Anglo papers- the
monument said "Trueter De Union- True to the Union".They were trying to
get to Mexico like so many Americans went to Canada in Korean & Vietnam
War- religious or Political pacificists.

Pardon me, you asked about Florida- not sure of a direct answer. My
Double first Cousin is completing her Ph. D..in history to teach in
Florida Colleges. She has checked out Seminole tales of some being from
The Great Lakes Indian tribes, neighbors of the Algoniquins, who were
captured by deciet and sold in the Caribeans as slaves where the Africans
were dying of tropical diseases. Many escaped in or on anything which
would float and came to Florida and Joined the Seminoles. She has enough
documentation to satisfy some Grad school profs.

Another cousin is a writer of guides for Florida Schools.

Oh, yes the Confederate Army paid Black soldiers the same pay as Whites-
all Blacks were in integrated units. The Union Army paid "Buffalo
Soldiers: 2/3 the pay that a White got and were in segregated units until
1890's and we did not fully integrate the Army until 1950. I was in one
of the first Heavy Tank Integrated Units. Could it be that one of the 2
Calvary you mentioned was a band of Seminole and Blacks who volunteered
as a unit? There was a unit from New Orleans , all Black, who marched in
rank to join the Confederate Army some officers did not trust them, so
they went north and joined the Union Army. Either way, it was a job and a
chance for instant freedom. - a win-win situation.

Take care,
Charles .a, ?wyly

On Mon, 7 May 2001 16:56:06 -0400 <> writes:
> It is so sad to see someone consider the wonderful information we
> have been
> being blessed with on this site 'junk'. It takes a bit of time for
> everyone
> to get their interests mentioned. Addressing them will come
> eventually, for
> those of us who haven't found answers, as yet. In the meantime, I
> scan each
> post, save those which may have a tie-in, or which are just so
> entertaining,
> and enjoy the camaraderie.
> Enough 'junk' from me!
> My MORGAN line came from NE to Va>MD>NC>SC>GA(?)>FL. I'm reasonably
> sure
> they were of Quaker faith and am interested in the migration of
> Quaker
> families, from 1636- 1850.
> Mr. Wylie, with your vast knowledge, do you know anything about the
> guerrilla bands, or Union Men, who fought against the CSA, in
> Florida, and
> eventually became the 2nd Fl Cavalry, USA? To complicate things,
> there was
> also a 2nd Fl Cavalry, CSA!
> God bless, Carolyn
>
>
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