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From: Lee Hoffman/KY <<A HREF="mailto:"></A>>
Subject: Re: TMG-L: Custom Source Elements & Nested Cites
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 21:03:51 -0400


Terry Reigel wrote:
>So I can, in theory, use up to 30 elements in a given source template. But
>if I try to make several complex templates I have to be very careful not to
>use two names for the same element (actually, TMG will keep me from doing
>it). And if I make custom elements with the same name in different data
>sets, I have to keep them in the same group in both sets, or I have a
>problem if I try to merge the sets. Right so far?

Yes, you can use up to 29 Source Elements (one from each Source Group) in a
Source Category (Full Footnote, Short Footnote and Bibliography Templates).
And yes, you can have merge problems if the same Source Element is in
different Source Groups in two datasets.

>So now I'm back to my basic question. I got into this trying to deal with
>sources that themselves contain useful cites for the data I am recording. I
>was trying to build templates that reflect both my source (A) and the cited
>source (B), building both up from source elements. That now seems too
>awkward to work well.
>
>On alternative seems to be to do the same thing, but capture the cited
>source (B) entirely in a single source element, rather than building it up
>from several elements. Actually, I might use two, one for the long form and
>the other for the short form. But I could then use the CD only once (unless
>there is a way to split the CD), so I couldn't very neatly capture, say
>page detail, for both my source (A) and the cited source (B).
>
>Another alternative is to simply capture the entire reference to the cited
>source (B) in the CD. But then I have to enter it on each citation, on
>every tag that refers to it, which seems painful.
>
>Anybody found a better way to handle this?

Is there a _NEED_ to cite the cited Source in your Foot/Endnote or
Bibliography in every such citation? You should (for your own knowledge)
note the fact that a Source drew its information from another Source (i.e.,
a Source of a Source), and you can do this in TMG. In the Source
Definition Screen, click on the Attachments tab and click on the bottom
plus (+) icon to add a Citation there just like it was a regular tag
citation. See p. 281 of the Reference Manual.

Now for some Sources, you may want to include additional information to the
regular Source Pattern(s). For example, Mills indicates in _Evidence!_
(p.83) how to cite microcopy from the Family History Library. While this
is not really the same thing, one might get some ideas from her examples.

Hope this helps -


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