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From: Robin Lamacraft <>
Subject: Re: TMG-L: [Fwd: RFD: soc.genealogy.computing reorganization]
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 10:29:50 +0930


All,
I see 2 significant problems with the proposed idea of a newsgroup:

soc.genealogy.computing.wholly-genes

(1) One is the idea of a newsgroup - in many *international* market places
the soc.
family of newsgroups are *not distributed* so many users could not see it
(just like the problems we have we with Compuserve forums!!)

(2) The charter seems to be too narrow - limited to only products provided
by wholly-genes.
(2.a) Where does the discussion of John Cardinal's utilities belong.
(2.b) Where does the discussion of importing and exporting of data
between TMG and other systems belong? (See my proposed revision of the
charter below.)

I for one, cannot subscribe to the soc. groups as my ISP *will not feed*
the soc. newsgroups. Therefore, I can not see their contents unless they
are gatewayed by another mechanism rather than a newlist feed.

I would *VOTE AGAINST* such a proposal unless
(A) the charter was broadened
A.1 - to allow discussion of Wholly-Genes related products (e.g.
3rd party utilities)
A.2 - to allow discussion of the inter-operability of Wholly-Genes
products with other products

(B) the content of the newgroup was not hosted somewhere such that it does
not require the local ISP to take the feed for users to be able to interact
with such a newsgroup.

(C) If this meant that the mailing list TMG-L was to be replaced by this
mechanism to the detriment of some (especially distant) current TMG users.

Robin

At 16:25 1/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Partial forward -- see the newsgroups for the entire text.
>
>All the best,
>
>Valorie
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: RFD: soc.genealogy.computing reorganization
>Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 11:21:14 GMT
>From: (John Pimentel)
>To:
>
> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
><snip>
> unmoderated group soc.genealogy.computing.wholly-genes
>
>This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for reorganization of the
>world-wide Usenet newsgroup soc.genealogy.computing. This is not a Call
>For
>Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.
>
>Newsgroup line:
><snip>
>soc.genealogy.computing.wholly-genes Support specific to Wholly Genes.
><snip>
>CHARTER: soc.genealogy.computing.wholly-genes
>
>Support specific to Wholly Genes products.

AMEND FROM:
>Discussion of computer-based genealogical tools/resources of any type,
>with posts being limited to the family of products provided by the vendor.

TO REVISED WORDING
Discussion of computer-based genealogical tools/resources of any type,
with posts being limited to:
a. the family of products provided by the vendor,
b. products designed _explicitly_ to inter-operate with the family of
products provided by the vendor,
c. problems of data exchange between the family of products provided by the
vendor and other software products.

>Posts may be in the form of questions about the use and setup of the
> product, solicitation of information, announcement of their products, etc

>Posting in response to questions about the product or family of products
>by the vendor representative are permitted within the parameters of:
>
>Support:
> Answering technical questions of a interest to the readers of the
> newsgroup.
>
> Posting of known bugs/defects, their interim work-around, projected
> releases containing the fixes (bugs/defects) and enhancements will
> be provided.
>
> Vendors are encouraged to post FAQ (Frequently Answered Questions).
>
>Solicitation of information:
>
> Providing a list of features, and seeking input on enhancements for
> upcoming releases of their product.
>
>Not acceptable:
>
> Comparison of various vendor's products' features, between and by
> vendors, is not permitted.
>
> The vendor is not permitted to attach their mailing list to this
> newsgroup, nor provide a gateway to/from this newsgroup and their
> mailing nor other resource, example as a chat area, either on a
> web page or other service.
>
>END CHARTER.

Robin Ross Lamacraft ()
Coordinator of the Adelaide, South Australia TMG Users Group
Guild of One-Name Studies #3019 - LAMACRAFT
Ph: +61 8 8379 1833 Fax: +61 8 8338 5252
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