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From: Richard Brogger <>
Subject: [TMG-L:] Re: TMG-L: Using TMG to Catalog pictures?
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 20:13:06 -0500
References: <4.1.20000430205132.0096def0@pop.mis.net>


Hi Lee,

I am going to use one answer to say thank you for your input on both
Cataloging pictures and on the Step by step procedure message.

At this moment, I doubt that I will be making a Step by step procedure
because it does not seem to be important to many readers. One person
wrote to me but he is the only one.

I am in the process now of making a stripped down file to use as a
framework for my object Catalog. If it works out well I will probably
write up something about what I did and how I did it. Don't hold your
breath waiting, it will take a long time for I have a lot to learn but I
expect that experimenting will teach me a lot that I would not learn
otherwise.

Richard Brogger

Lee Hoffman/KY wrote:
>
> Richard Brogger wrote:
> >I am still learning TMG and I like the idea of using TMG to list my
> >objects that are digitized or hard copy. My intent is to import a
> >stripped down family file with just BMD data and hang my pictures etc.
> >on that "tree".
> >
> >I have used a numbering system for people for years and use the same
> >numbers for photos, documents, etc.
> >
> >The system I use for people is a combination of the Modified Henry and
> >the Ahnentafel. I refer to it as the H^A number system because my
> >oldest known ancestor and all descendants are assigned a Henry number.
> >When I get to spouses, they get the Henry number followed by a +1 if is
> >is the first spouse. My 2G-Grandmother is 12211+1. When I add her
> >family, I use her number as a base, add a ^ and go to Ahnentafel
> >numbers. Her father is 12211+1^2, her mother 12211+1^3 and so on. For
> >siblings I use her number a pipe and the Henry system, so her oldest
> >sibling becomes 12211+1|1 and his first child is 12211+1|11.
> >
> >Since we are no longer limited to eight characters in a directory name,
> >this numbers can be used in a computer directory to name each TIFF, WAV
> >or other file. By adding YYMMDDAS to the end of the H^A number, I get
> >a sort by person and date. The A is for an Alpha character when
> >multiple objects have the same date. The S is for single, G for Group.
> >When the image is of a group, I assign the number for the oldest person
> >in the group or the principle person.
> >
> >1. I intend to enter the H^A number in the Reference field. Please don't
> >suggest changing to a different numbering system, it would be too hard
> >to change. Some of my files are on CD and can't be changed without
> >making new CDs.
>
> If what you have been using works for you, then that is what you should
> use. It seems rather complex and cumbersome to me, but that's only my
> opinion without really giving it a try. <g>
>
> >2. I hope I will be able to enter a dated description of the object so
> >that the Reference number + the date will give me the directory
> >location. What type of Event should I use. I was thinking of using
> >"Reference".
>
> You might consider creating a Custom Tag -- probably in the Other Tag
> Group. At least one user here reported using a Custom Tag named PICTURES.
> With a Custom Tag, you can set up default Tag/Witness Sentences, GEDCOM
> Label, etc. that fits your needs (or you can set the Sentences to not print
> anything). The default Tag Sentence might include certain character
> sequences that you might use in your word processor to find (and replace)
> during editing of a report.
>
> >3. If it is a group picture and I list the photo under the name of the
> >principle person, can I list the other persons in the photo as
> >Witnesses?
>
> I don't see why not. As above, you can set up the Witness Sentence as
> needed. And each Witness can have the Witness Sentence set specifically
> for them.
>
> >4. Can I group the Witnesses after the picture listing by using sort
> >dates.
>
> Witnesses assigned to a Tag may print singly for that Witness Sentence or
> all Witnesses. I don't see any way that you can set up groups of
> Witnesses. However, keep in mind that the two Principals can also be
> considered witnesses of an event -- albeit in a special way. Thus there
> might be a grouping to that minor extent.
>
> >5. Can I also link the listing to the file as an exhibit?
>
> You can attach an Exhibit to a Tag. There is no provision for attaching a
> Tag or its contents to an Exhibit.
>
> >6. All pictures where a person is the principle will list with that
> >person but how will I find the pictures where he is one of the group but
> >not the principle?
>
> The same way you would now, I suppose. At this time there is no way to
> print a list of any or all the Exhibits in TMG. However, if you go with
> the idea above of adding Tags to a person, attaching an Exhibit to that
> Tag, and assigning Witnesses to the Tag, then you can probably create
> reports based on that Tag Type, the persons assigned as Principals
> (Witnesses?), dates, places, etc. The list of persons in a picture might
> be entered in the Tag Memo, in which case that could be printed in various
> reports. There are a number of possibilities here.
>
> >Can I create a list of all objects that pertain to
> >each person?
>
> As I mentioned above there is no report about Exhibits at this time, but a
> List of Events, a List of Witnesses, and/or a List of People report may
> file your needs if you use the Tag method.
>
> >I intend to use the creation of this catalog file as a step in learning
> >TMG and I would appreciate any and all suggestions on how to make it
> >correct from the beginning. If you can suggest the use of different
> >features to make it better AND help my learning, that would be even
> >better.
>
> Without knowing your needs and more, I don't think I can comment more at
> this time more than the above. Consider the idea above and play around
> with it some in a trial dataset, and I suspect you may find some other
> ideas to improve the concept. If you have other questions on this, please
> post it here. Further, when you get it working, you might write it up and
> post it here, and/or post it on the Internet (I'd be glad to post it on TMG
> Tips if you want).
>
> Hope this helps -
>
> ----------
> Lee Hoffman/KY
> E-mail:
> TMG Tips: <http://www.tmgtips.com>;
> My website: <http://www.tmgtips.com/lhoffman>;
> --------------
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>
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